Let's help out Whitlock...

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

The most pathetic thing I can imagine is people continuing to roll over and support a GM and front office that has a track record of failure virtually unmatched in the league.

Feh...Im taking you inferrence that I somehow support the failure of last season. Far from it. Ive said on numerous occasions that Im pretty much apathetic at this point. I actually welcome the changing of the guard, as it should provide me loads of material.

Let's get one thing straight...this is not about the Chiefs or the success or failure. Most of this discussion boils down to each of us proving to the other how much we 'know' football and that's it.

Predictions of failure bore me...it's the easy way out especially with regard to this franchise.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Let's get one thing straight...this is not about the Chiefs or the success or failure. Most of this discussion boils down to each of us proving to the other how much we 'know' football and that's it.

Maybe in your mind but that is very presumptuous of you to assume that be the case with others. And certainly don't agree. While many have their opinions and damn few don't take pleasure in their opinions turning out accurate but in the end it is about the success or failure of the Chiefs. I'm sure there were many Patriot fans that were certain that Bill Belichick was horrible head coaching choice back in 2000 and head to look no further than his 5-11 final season with Cleveland to believe it...The fact he followed it up by taking a Pete Carroll team that went 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 only to post another 5-11 season probably confirmed with zero doubt that were correct and right but as those fans sit here today the only thing they care about is winning their 3rd Super Bowl ring in 4 years. Damn few fans care about whether they "knew" Belichick was a good or bad choice as a coach back in 2000 and only care about the success or failure of their team next weekend in the Super Bowl. Only reason you feel like people only care about how much they "know" about football is because failure is the only thing this franchise has had for a very long time. If Carl Peterson and his pathetic front office could actually mix in success during their decade and a half on the job you would be amazed how little people cared about being right or wrong.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Maybe in your mind but that is very presumptuous of you to assume that be the case with others. And certainly don't agree. While many have their opinions and damn few don't take pleasure in their opinions turning out accurate but in the end it is about the success or failure of the Chiefs. I'm sure there were many Patriot fans that were certain that Bill Belichick was horrible head coaching choice back in 2000 and head to look no further than his 5-11 final season with Cleveland to believe it...The fact he followed it up by taking a Pete Carroll team that went 10-6, 9-7 and 8-8 only to post another 5-11 season probably confirmed with zero doubt that were correct and right but as those fans sit here today the only thing they care about is winning their 3rd Super Bowl ring in 4 years. Damn few fans care about whether they "knew" Belichick was a good or bad choice as a coach back in 2000 and only care about the success or failure of their team next weekend in the Super Bowl. Only reason you feel like people only care about how much they "know" about football is because failure is the only thing this franchise has had for a very long time. If Carl Peterson and his pathetic front office could actually mix in success during their decade and a half on the job you would be amazed how little people cared about being right or wrong.

I dont have to be presumptuous, Ive read your posts for years....replete with numerous predictions and how you knew better. I'll never forget the time you mentioned something about going out and actually making the team as WR.

But you are right, when the team is winning, no one cares...this IS the beauty of taking the position that every decision/trade/draft pick is the wrong one. If KC were staring at the SB right now, a good few would actually care about who predicted what and when and who was right or wrong or nosensical malarky that passed as football acumen before that one game. Should KC fail any step along the way, the earlier 'predictions' are self fulfilling...

As Ive said before, it's a good bet given this teams history which actually predates Peterson.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

I dont have to be presumptuous, Ive read your posts for years....replete with numerous predictions and how you knew better. I'll never forget the time you mentioned something about going out and actually making the team as WR.

Amazing that you will never forget something that was never said...but I will bare with you.

Originally Posted by KCTitus

As Ive said before, it's a good bet given this teams history which actually predates Peterson.

Hence the reason why most people want a drastic change in management. Just because the management before Peterson was shitty everyone should some how accept it from him or conclude that the team is pre-destined to always have shitty management and should just wake up and accept it? What kind of pathetic defeatist loser attitude is that?

[shaneo69]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Just because the management before Peterson was shitty everyone should some how accept it from him or conclude that the team is pre-destined to always have shitty management and should just wake up and accept it? What kind of pathetic defeatist loser attitude is that?

It's the same attitude the Chiefs have. Ho hum, our draft picks suck, so we're forced to suffer through crappy seasons....there's nothing else we can do but accept it. Because after all, free agency doesn't work.
That would just be a waste of Lamar's hard-earned money.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by shaneo69

It's the same attitude the Chiefs have. Ho hum, our draft picks suck, so we're forced to suffer through crappy seasons....there's nothing else we can do but accept it. Because after all, free agency doesn't work.
That would just be a waste of Lamar's hard-earned money.

Simply wonderful. Im not sure how else I can say what Ive said to you a couple of other times, but let me restate for your benefit...Im apathetic.

While I appreciate your assumption of my attitude, you couldnt be more wrong, but that's not something unique for you.

[HC_Chief]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Simply wonderful. Im not sure how else I can say what Ive said to you a couple of other times, but let me restate for your benefit...Im apathetic.

While I appreciate your assumption of my attitude, you couldnt be more wrong, but that's not something unique for you.

Your attitude?

[shaneo69]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Simply wonderful. Im not sure how else I can say what Ive said to you a couple of other times, but let me restate for your benefit...Im apathetic.

While I appreciate your assumption of my attitude, you couldnt be more wrong, but that's not something unique for you.

Unless you're a member of Chiefs management, I wasn't talking about your attitude, but now that you mention it, "apathetic" is a word I would use to describe Lamar Hunt's attitude as well.

[shaneo69]

[QUOTE=KCTitus]Simply wonderful. Im not sure how else I can say what Ive said to you a couple of other times, but let me restate for your benefit...Im apathetic. [QUOTE]

Yeah, you did mention that a couple times. You know, I'm pretty apathetic about the Portland Trail Blazers. I'm thinking about finding a Trail Blazer BB and then spending up to 8 hours a day reading it and then poking fun at their true and passionate fans who show frustration with a team that hasn't won the Championship since the mid- 1970's. Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

Amazing that you will never forget something that was never said...but I will bare with you.

Ok, I'll go find it...I found it amusing back then, so we can all relive it.

Hence the reason why most people want a drastic change in management. Just because the management before Peterson was shitty everyone should some how accept it from him or conclude that the team is pre-destined to always have shitty management and should just wake up and accept it? What kind of pathetic defeatist loser attitude is that?

Did you not just read from my post on this very thread, that I said I welcomed a change in management? Good Lord, Nap...you're smarter than this. Read what I say, not what you think Im saying.

[NaptownChief]

Originally Posted by KCTitus

Did you not just read from my post on this very thread, that I said I welcomed a change in management? Good Lord, Nap...you're smarter than this. Read what I say, not what you think Im saying.

I saw that part but it was kinda over shadowed by your non-stop babble and "amazement" that fans would complain about a poorly performing front office.

Fans of bad teams complaining...Stunning....Next someone is going to tell me wives nag or people having different political views....

[KCTitus]

Originally Posted by NaptownChief

I saw that part but it was kinda over shadowed by your non-stop babble and "amazement" that fans would complain about a poorly performing front office.

Fans of bad teams complaining...Stunning....Next someone is going to tell me wives nag or people having different political views....

Nap, tsk..tsk...you again, misread, my amazement. Im not suprised of people voicing their displeasure, Im amazed at those peoples who continue to fund this organization all the while posting proudly that they know Carl's only motivation is to 'fill the seats'...*sigh*

Im not sure why you choose today to be obtuse, but damn. That's two in a row. I understand, I dont toe your line and you want to argue with me about it, but you're not reading what Im typing.