Peyton Manning has never won a playoff game!

Mi_chief_fan · 12-30-2000, 02:49 PM

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WisChief · 12-30-2000, 03:48 PM

Mi - you beat me to it! Come on all you Grbitchers that have continually spouted off about Manning being the best - spin away! [img]http://www.chiefsplanet.com/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

DaWolf · 12-30-2000, 04:03 PM

Manning is overrated. Like Darrell Russell said, the guy never wins the games that count...

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 12-30-2000, 04:22 PM

Dang it, I was just gettin' ready to log on about this and it's already here.

I guess the All-idiots team recognizes quarterback futility when we see it :D

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Mi_chief_fan · 12-30-2000, 05:31 PM

Wonder when the 'All Knowing' will chime in. :D

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milkman · 12-30-2000, 06:13 PM

The all knowing will blame it on Mora.
We might have to start a thread that says "Jim Mora has never won a playoff game."

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Packfan · 12-31-2000, 09:59 AM

So what are you guys saying, that you would rather have Grbac than Manning??

Manning's been in the league three years. Grbac, seven years. Grbac hasnt been to the playoffs in the last three and has only started two playoff games. Manning has been there in each of the last two years.

Its amazing that you fellas need to be convinced who the better QB is.

KCWolfman · 12-31-2000, 10:15 AM

Good Post guys.

Fact is that no one is comparing the abilities of either - that will be the interpretation of people who do not want to be wrong , even when they are.

The Colts have devised a plan (let's call it a 5 year plan) and they have failed at it. Harrison was the first key to that plan. Drafted 5 years ago, he had a tremendous rookie season - following a couple of years later Manning burst onto the scene and also has had a tremendous career. Finally James was the product of the worst single season of the Colts and a very generous high draft pick.

They also choose a coach who screws the pooch every single post-season (sound familiar Mr. Schottenheimer?). Idiot moves like kneeling at the half and the end of the regulation time is as assinine as passing when your RB is averaging over 5 yards a carry.

The Colts have won less than the Chiefs in their 5 year plan (Check out their regular season record during that time) and achieved MUCH HIGHER draft picks than the Chiefs during their plan - therefore, they have accomplished even less.

To conclude, I am not bashing the Colts (I was born and raised in Indiana and actually like the team quite a bit), but rather am pointing out that if every team has a 5 year plan, then 26 teams in the NFL aren't worth a lick every five years (that is if no team wins the SB more than once in those 5 years).

Mi_chief_fan · 12-31-2000, 10:16 AM

Once again Packfool, your true colors show. Postal tried to be a decent guy & make amends, and then you come and say something stupid like that.

Where was it said, or even insinuated, that [b]ANYONE[/b] would rather have Elvis than Manning. It wasn't. Once again, those moronic words came out of [b]YOUR[/b] mouth. This post was made in jest to your incoherent ramblings, and your too GO#DAMN stupid realize it.

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Packfan · 12-31-2000, 10:25 AM

Bliss,

Did you say a five year plan or a 12 year plan?

Again, who would you rather have, Manning or Grbac? Simple question. Just answer it and we can move on.

And yes, you are bashing the Colts.<BR>

KCWolfman · 12-31-2000, 10:27 AM

Packfan - Yes, Peterson has not won the SB in 12 years. But I believe your original complaint was that he did not complete his five year plan, neither have the Colts, period.

Would I take Grbac or Manning? I would take Manning in a heartbeat, he is younger and more mobile.

Were my earlier comments on my first post correct? Absolutely. The Colts have had more tools and accomplished less than they Chiefs in the first five years of their 'plan'.

stevieray · 12-31-2000, 10:30 AM

That's a close call. They both put up the same #'s this year. If the Chiefs had EJ in the backfield, I'd have to go with Grbac.

Packfan · 12-31-2000, 10:30 AM

Russ,

I think taking a team into overtime, on the road, and missing a game winning field goal is not as devastating as losing on your own home field, having home field advantage, and putting up less than ten points........twice.

Mora should be fired for his all-world kicker missing a very makable field goal with the wind. Yea, its all Mora's fault. Just like it was all Marty's fault for the three that Linn Elliott missed in 95.

I think I will let you and MI Chief debate today. That seems like an equal match.

Mi_chief_fan · 12-31-2000, 10:33 AM

Losing at home to the eventual Super Bowl champs is nothing to be embarrassed about. Losing on the road to a team you had beaten easily 2 weeks before is, especially since that team is going nowhere.

Who did the donks beat in the Super Bowl that year?

KCWolfman · 12-31-2000, 10:39 AM

Ken, once again you deliberately miss the gist of the post in a feeble attempt to be right when you aren't.

Mora was a fool, period. When a man like Smith with only half the talent of Edge runs all over the Colt defense, you simply dont allow a game to go to overtime if you have the opportunity to put it away - especially allowing the game to go to overtime when you are on the road with a lackluster defense.

#1. You are foolish to point out that the game came down to one play - a missed kick. If you play your 'Chiefs Analysis' game on the Colts as you do with Peterson and Co. - then the Colts screwed up by not attempting to shore up their defense better through drafts and free agents. A failed game does not come down to one play. It is every single mistake that has led up to that play as well.

#2. If you are attempting to bash again with the MI Chief comment, you are being childish once more. I guess I shouldnt have expected more.

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12-30-2000, 05:31 PM	#5
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12-30-2000, 06:13 PM	#6
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12-31-2000, 09:59 AM	#7
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	So what are you guys saying, that you would rather have Grbac than Manning?? Manning's been in the league three years. Grbac, seven years. Grbac hasnt been to the playoffs in the last three and has only started two playoff games. Manning has been there in each of the last two years. Its amazing that you fellas need to be convinced who the better QB is.
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12-30-2000, 03:48 PM	#2
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12-31-2000, 10:15 AM	#8
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Good Post guys. Fact is that no one is comparing the abilities of either - that will be the interpretation of people who do not want to be wrong , even when they are. The Colts have devised a plan (let's call it a 5 year plan) and they have failed at it. Harrison was the first key to that plan. Drafted 5 years ago, he had a tremendous rookie season - following a couple of years later Manning burst onto the scene and also has had a tremendous career. Finally James was the product of the worst single season of the Colts and a very generous high draft pick. They also choose a coach who screws the pooch every single post-season (sound familiar Mr. Schottenheimer?). Idiot moves like kneeling at the half and the end of the regulation time is as assinine as passing when your RB is averaging over 5 yards a carry. The Colts have won less than the Chiefs in their 5 year plan (Check out their regular season record during that time) and achieved MUCH HIGHER draft picks than the Chiefs during their plan - therefore, they have accomplished even less. To conclude, I am not bashing the Colts (I was born and raised in Indiana and actually like the team quite a bit), but rather am pointing out that if every team has a 5 year plan, then 26 teams in the NFL aren't worth a lick every five years (that is if no team wins the SB more than once in those 5 years).
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12-31-2000, 10:16 AM	#9
Mi_chief_fan There was an idea..... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Casino cash: $9942966	Once again Packfool, your true colors show. Postal tried to be a decent guy & make amends, and then you come and say something stupid like that. Where was it said, or even insinuated, that [b]ANYONE[/b] would rather have Elvis than Manning. It wasn't. Once again, those moronic words came out of [b]YOUR[/b] mouth. This post was made in jest to your incoherent ramblings, and your too GO#DAMN stupid realize it. [This message has been edited by Mi_chief_fan (edited 12-31-2000).]
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12-31-2000, 10:25 AM	#10
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	Bliss, Did you say a five year plan or a 12 year plan? Again, who would you rather have, Manning or Grbac? Simple question. Just answer it and we can move on. And yes, you are bashing the Colts.<BR>
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12-31-2000, 10:27 AM	#11
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Packfan - Yes, Peterson has not won the SB in 12 years. But I believe your original complaint was that he did not complete his five year plan, neither have the Colts, period. Would I take Grbac or Manning? I would take Manning in a heartbeat, he is younger and more mobile. Were my earlier comments on my first post correct? Absolutely. The Colts have had more tools and accomplished less than they Chiefs in the first five years of their 'plan'.
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12-31-2000, 10:30 AM	#12
stevieray Most things I worry about… Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $-1104727	That's a close call. They both put up the same #'s this year. If the Chiefs had EJ in the backfield, I'd have to go with Grbac.
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12-31-2000, 10:33 AM	#14
Mi_chief_fan There was an idea..... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Casino cash: $9942966	Losing at home to the eventual Super Bowl champs is nothing to be embarrassed about. Losing on the road to a team you had beaten easily 2 weeks before is, especially since that team is going nowhere. Who did the donks beat in the Super Bowl that year?
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12-31-2000, 10:39 AM	#15
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Ken, once again you deliberately miss the gist of the post in a feeble attempt to be right when you aren't. Mora was a fool, period. When a man like Smith with only half the talent of Edge runs all over the Colt defense, you simply dont allow a game to go to overtime if you have the opportunity to put it away - especially allowing the game to go to overtime when you are on the road with a lackluster defense. #1. You are foolish to point out that the game came down to one play - a missed kick. If you play your 'Chiefs Analysis' game on the Colts as you do with Peterson and Co. - then the Colts screwed up by not attempting to shore up their defense better through drafts and free agents. A failed game does not come down to one play. It is every single mistake that has led up to that play as well. #2. If you are attempting to bash again with the MI Chief comment, you are being childish once more. I guess I shouldnt have expected more.
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