How would you feel about this first round pick?

Brock · 04-09-2005, 09:11 AM

First off, let me preface this by "assuming we have Surtain in the bag".

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...son/index.html

1. Which quarterback will be the closest thing to a Ben Roethlisberger in the 2005 draft?

Given that no one even knew Ben Roethlisberger would turn into a Ben Roethlisberger at this time last year, it's pure conjecture to try and identify the next big thing on the young-quarterback front. And let's not forget that Roethlisberger wound up redefining the standard for rookie quarterback performance with his mind-boggling 15 consecutive victories for the 16-2 Steelers. Alas, we may never see the likes of him again.

But if we had to tab one rookie passer as the most likely candidate to make a sizable impact in 2005, our choice might surprise you. It's not Cal's Aaron Rodgers or Utah's Alex Smith, who figure to be the first two quarterbacks to come off the board in two weeks, possibly in the opening three picks.

It's former Florida State product Adrian McPherson, whose exceptional workouts this spring have been generating real buzz among league personnel types. McPherson will be 22 in early May, and he has one clear-cut advantage over his fellow rookie quarterbacks: He already is a professional, having hung up cartoonish numbers playing for the Arena Football League's Indiana Firebirds in 2004.

Despite not being activated until the third game of the season, McPherson won the AFL's rookie of the year honor, throwing for 2,965 yards, with 56 touchdowns and just five (yep, five) interceptions in 14 games. He also rushed for 18 touchdowns and 257 yards on just 59 carries, proving what phenomenal athletic gifts he possesses.

McPherson, of course, has precious little college experience, having seen starting action for only part of the 2002 season at Florida State. He was kicked out of school by the Seminoles late that year after being arrested for stealing and cashing a blank check, and later also was hit with charges that he gambled on pro and college football games. But from all indications, McPherson has matured, paid for his mistakes, and is ready to handle the spotlight of quarterbacking in the NFL.

Scouts who have watched him this spring rave about his huge upside, and his arm strength has drawn comparisons with John Elway. The 6-foot-3, 218-pound McPherson has been making flat-footed throws of 70 yards upon request, and his pinpoint accuracy seldom leaves him in the position of hurting his team's chances. He throws effectively on the run, has great body control and knows how to make something out of nothing when a play breaks down.

McPherson is still a little raw in spots, but his instincts for the game are superb and he appears far more ready to step into somebody's lineup than either Rodgers or Smith. He has certainly handled more adversity -- and persevered -- in the past two-and-a-half years than any of the other leading quarterback prospects. Some teams might get scared away by his past, but with two weeks remaining in the scouting process, he is being mentioned as a first-round candidate, and quite possibly the third quarterback selected overall.

Oh, and one more potentially telling link between McPherson and Roethlisberger? McPherson is represented by veteran agent Leigh Steinberg. Steinberg's headline client in last year's first round? Big Ben himself.

JimNasium · 04-09-2005, 09:14 AM

DeepSouth · 04-09-2005, 09:17 AM

Why spend the 1st round pick on a player that will sit on the bench until it's time for him to become a free agent?

To me, it'd be wasting a pick when the Chiefs could draft someone that could maybe help this year. Definitely, by next year.

htismaqe · 04-09-2005, 09:17 AM

In the first round?

Only if we trade down.

beer bacon · 04-09-2005, 09:28 AM

We need to be working to win this year. The window is closing! So what should we do? Reach 30 picks too early for a quarterback of course.

Brock · 04-09-2005, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer baron

We need to be working to win this year. The window is closing! So what should we do? Reach 30 picks too early for a quarterback of course.

To me, the draft isn't about this year. If we don't get Surtain, and we are forced to start a rookie CB, the window has slammed shut anyway.

As for where McPherson will be selected, opinions vary.

beer bacon · 04-09-2005, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock

To me, the draft isn't about this year. If we don't get Surtain, and we are forced to start a rookie CB, the window has slammed shut anyway.

As for where McPherson will be selected, opinions vary.

There are rookies every year that start and do good. You can't rest your teams hopes on a rookie being a great starter, but you should draft at a position that if the rookies does turn out to be able to be a solid starter it will help your team out where you need it.

Also, when you are drafting as early as we are you should be to expect a guy like Carlos Rogers or if we moved up a few spots, a guy like Merriman, to at least situationally contribute. I think we are getting deluded by having DV as coach. He is horrible about giving rookies playing time.

Mr. Laz · 04-09-2005, 09:52 AM

i doubt mcpherson goes in round 1

if he's there in round 3 ... lets talk

Thig Lyfe · 04-09-2005, 09:58 AM

Well, judging from that article if he's available later on he'd be a steal.

whoman69 · 04-09-2005, 10:00 AM

If we go QB in round one there will be the pressure there to put him in immediately as 1st round QBs get paid like starters.

eazyb81 · 04-09-2005, 10:01 AM

No way McPherson goes in the 1st round. Either way, I don't think he would be a good fit for our offense. I want to take a QB somewhere in the draft, probably the 4th-6th rounds, but I don't really want McPherson.

Brock · 04-09-2005, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69

If we go QB in round one there will be the pressure there to put him in immediately as 1st round QBs get paid like starters.

a 15th pick gets paid like a 15th pick.

dtrain · 04-09-2005, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer baron

There are rookies every year that start and do good. You can't rest your teams hopes on a rookie being a great starter, but you should draft at a position that if the rookies does turn out to be able to be a solid starter it will help your team out where you need it.

Also, when you are drafting as early as we are you should be to expect a guy like Carlos Rogers or if we moved up a few spots, a guy like Merriman, to at least situationally contribute. I think we are getting deluded by having DV as coach. He is horrible about giving rookies playing time.

I agree 100% especially about DV and rookie playing time. Let the best player play no matter how long they have been in the league!!!

**Saulbadguy** · 04-09-2005, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz

i doubt mcpherson goes in round 1

if he's there in round 3 ... lets talk

Yep.

Sure-Oz · 04-09-2005, 12:14 PM

Id take a gander in the middle rounds or late

04-09-2005, 09:11 AM
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	How would you feel about this first round pick? First off, let me preface this by "assuming we have Surtain in the bag". http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...son/index.html 1. Which quarterback will be the closest thing to a Ben Roethlisberger in the 2005 draft? Given that no one even knew Ben Roethlisberger would turn into a Ben Roethlisberger at this time last year, it's pure conjecture to try and identify the next big thing on the young-quarterback front. And let's not forget that Roethlisberger wound up redefining the standard for rookie quarterback performance with his mind-boggling 15 consecutive victories for the 16-2 Steelers. Alas, we may never see the likes of him again. But if we had to tab one rookie passer as the most likely candidate to make a sizable impact in 2005, our choice might surprise you. It's not Cal's Aaron Rodgers or Utah's Alex Smith, who figure to be the first two quarterbacks to come off the board in two weeks, possibly in the opening three picks. It's former Florida State product Adrian McPherson, whose exceptional workouts this spring have been generating real buzz among league personnel types. McPherson will be 22 in early May, and he has one clear-cut advantage over his fellow rookie quarterbacks: He already is a professional, having hung up cartoonish numbers playing for the Arena Football League's Indiana Firebirds in 2004. Despite not being activated until the third game of the season, McPherson won the AFL's rookie of the year honor, throwing for 2,965 yards, with 56 touchdowns and just five (yep, five) interceptions in 14 games. He also rushed for 18 touchdowns and 257 yards on just 59 carries, proving what phenomenal athletic gifts he possesses. McPherson, of course, has precious little college experience, having seen starting action for only part of the 2002 season at Florida State. He was kicked out of school by the Seminoles late that year after being arrested for stealing and cashing a blank check, and later also was hit with charges that he gambled on pro and college football games. But from all indications, McPherson has matured, paid for his mistakes, and is ready to handle the spotlight of quarterbacking in the NFL. Scouts who have watched him this spring rave about his huge upside, and his arm strength has drawn comparisons with John Elway. The 6-foot-3, 218-pound McPherson has been making flat-footed throws of 70 yards upon request, and his pinpoint accuracy seldom leaves him in the position of hurting his team's chances. He throws effectively on the run, has great body control and knows how to make something out of nothing when a play breaks down. McPherson is still a little raw in spots, but his instincts for the game are superb and he appears far more ready to step into somebody's lineup than either Rodgers or Smith. He has certainly handled more adversity -- and persevered -- in the past two-and-a-half years than any of the other leading quarterback prospects. Some teams might get scared away by his past, but with two weeks remaining in the scouting process, he is being mentioned as a first-round candidate, and quite possibly the third quarterback selected overall. Oh, and one more potentially telling link between McPherson and Roethlisberger? McPherson is represented by veteran agent Leigh Steinberg. Steinberg's headline client in last year's first round? Big Ben himself.
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eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	No way McPherson goes in the 1st round. Either way, I don't think he would be a good fit for our offense. I want to take a QB somewhere in the draft, probably the 4th-6th rounds, but I don't really want McPherson.
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