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Old 04-13-2005, 12:25 PM  
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Schedules are official - Denver ... wow!

WEEK DAY DATE OPPONENT SITE TIME TV
1 Sun. Sept. 11 at Miami Dolphins Stadium 1 p.m. EDT CBS
2 Sun. Sept. 18 SAN DIEGO INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT CBS
3 Mon. Sept. 26 KANSAS CITY INVESCO Field at Mile High 7 p.m. MDT ABC
4 Sun. Oct. 2 at Jacksonville ALLTEL Stadium 1 p.m. EDT CBS
5 Sun. Oct. 9 WASHINGTON INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT FOX
6 Sun. Oct. 16 NEW ENGLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT CBS *
7 Sun. Oct. 23 at N.Y. Giants Giants Stadium 4:15 p.m. EDT CBS *
8 Sun. Oct. 30 PHILADELPHIA INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST FOX *

5 of the first 8 at home - not bad
opening at Miami - I like that
KC @ Denver on MNF - I like that

@Jags .. tough
NE and Philly @ Denver in prior to Nov 1 ... really tough, but I like that it's in Denver

I see 5 "winnable" games - @Miami, SD in Den, KC in Den, Was in Den and at the NYG

@ Jags, NE and Philly in Denver - very tough

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10 Sun. Nov. 13 at Oakland McAfee Coliseum 1:05 p.m. PST CBS
11 Sun. Nov. 20 N.Y. JETS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS *
12 Thu. Nov. 24 at Dallas Texas Stadium 3:15 p.m. CST CBS
13 Sun. Dec. 4 at Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium 3:15 p.m. CST CBS
14 Sun. Dec. 11 BALTIMORE INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS
15 Sat. Dec. 17 at Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium 8:30 p.m. EST ESPN
16 Sat. Dec. 24 OAKLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS *
17 Sat. Dec. 31 at San Diego Qualcomm Stadium 1:30 p.m. PST CBS

The final stretch of games is not easy. Jets in Denver could be a win, @ Dallas should be a win...

@Oak, @KC, @ Buf, @ SD ... 4 very tough places to play against teams that will present issues. I don't like Baltimore ever just b/c they have Denver's number, at least they have in recent years.

I haven't looked at all the divisional schedules, but they won't be too different. 10 or 11 wins in the AFCW this season is going to be a fight for any of the teams.

Whooo.

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Old 04-13-2005, 01:02 PM   #16
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You obviously haven't seen Drew Bledsoe much lately.

That team won 9 games based entirely on defense, special teams and a mediocre offense. Losman can't be THAT much worse than Bledsoe. Seriously. The boy has completely lost his game.
Yeah I have seen Drew Bledsoe lately. My question to you is, have you seen Losman play lately? All Rookies (and he essentially is a rookie) struggle. Especially JP Losman, a guy I wasn't too high on coming out of college anyway. The Bills won't win 10 games with Losman at the helm.

I get this feeling that just because your team is the SB Champs, you think that gives you credibility.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:03 PM   #17
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AFC East last year went:

Pats - 14-2
Jets - 11-5
Bills - 9-7
Dolphins -- 4-12 or whatever it was.


They had the benefit of the powderpuff NFC West last year, versus the considerably tougher NFC South this year. We also switch from AFC North to the AFC West, which is at least a slight step up in competition.

But I agree, 10+ for 3 teams in the same division would be rare as heck. But even if they all win 9+, the piont remains -- the AFC East is a pretty tough slate to run against.
Sure, but we're all smart enough to realize that in the last 4 years... what a team or division did the year before doesn't really equate to much when you talk about the next season. Look at all the teams that go downhill and the others that step up over the course of 1 offseason.

The Bills will struggle with Lossman, I'd say 8 wins would be an achievement. The Jets ... well, that all depends on whether or not Curtis Martin can do what he did in 2004. Martin had a year that nobody expected him to have, is there reason to really think he can repeat it? If he runs for only 1300 yards and 7 TDs... will that be enough to carry the offense and what was a mediocre passing game in 2004? I don't think so.

I also think that the AFCW will have 4 very potent offenses that teams have to deal with. The defenses rank right now - SD, Den, KC, OAK in my opinion and all but OAK should be improved to a degree. I am not saying the AFCW is a powerhouse again, but it's no cakewalk.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:04 PM   #18
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WEEK DAY DATE OPPONENT SITE TIME TV
1 Sun. Sept. 11 at Miami Dolphins Stadium 1 p.m. EDT CBS
2 Sun. Sept. 18 SAN DIEGO INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT CBS
3 Mon. Sept. 26 KANSAS CITY INVESCO Field at Mile High 7 p.m. MDT ABC
4 Sun. Oct. 2 at Jacksonville ALLTEL Stadium 1 p.m. EDT CBS
5 Sun. Oct. 9 WASHINGTON INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT FOX
6 Sun. Oct. 16 NEW ENGLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MDT CBS *
7 Sun. Oct. 23 at N.Y. Giants Giants Stadium 4:15 p.m. EDT CBS *
8 Sun. Oct. 30 PHILADELPHIA INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST FOX *

5 of the first 8 at home - not bad
opening at Miami - I like that
KC @ Denver on MNF - I like that

@Jags .. tough
NE and Philly @ Denver in prior to Nov 1 ... really tough, but I like that it's in Denver

I see 5 "winnable" games - @Miami, SD in Den, KC in Den, Was in Den and at the NYG

@ Jags, NE and Philly in Denver - very tough

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10 Sun. Nov. 13 at Oakland McAfee Coliseum 1:05 p.m. PST CBS
11 Sun. Nov. 20 N.Y. JETS INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS *
12 Thu. Nov. 24 at Dallas Texas Stadium 3:15 p.m. CST CBS
13 Sun. Dec. 4 at Kansas City Arrowhead Stadium 3:15 p.m. CST CBS
14 Sun. Dec. 11 BALTIMORE INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS
15 Sat. Dec. 17 at Buffalo Ralph Wilson Stadium 8:30 p.m. EST ESPN
16 Sat. Dec. 24 OAKLAND INVESCO Field at Mile High 2:15 p.m. MST CBS *
17 Sat. Dec. 31 at San Diego Qualcomm Stadium 1:30 p.m. PST CBS

The final stretch of games is not easy. Jets in Denver could be a win, @ Dallas should be a win...

@Oak, @KC, @ Buf, @ SD ... 4 very tough places to play against teams that will present issues. I don't like Baltimore ever just b/c they have Denver's number, at least they have in recent years.

I haven't looked at all the divisional schedules, but they won't be too different. 10 or 11 wins in the AFCW this season is going to be a fight for any of the teams.

Whooo.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:07 PM   #19
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Not really. Everything balances itself out sooner or later, unless something very weird is happening (i.e. Sunday road game followed by a road Thanksgiving game).
Not really? It either is or it isn't. I think when you play a team has alot to do with success. Wouldn't you agree that weather and teams getting on a role are some of the factors to consider? If so, that has to do with WHEN you play a team.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:09 PM   #20
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Not really? It either is or it isn't. I think when you play a team has alot to do with success. Wouldn't you agree that weather and teams getting on a role are some of the factors to consider? If so, that has to do with WHEN you play a team.
Yep when you play a team is more important than who you play IMO. Especially dealing with weather, injuries and etc.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:13 PM   #21
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I would much rather watch the Denver/KC game in Denver in December...
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:38 PM   #22
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Donx at Arrowhead in December....

Seems like that's nearly every year, too. I like it.
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Old 04-13-2005, 01:54 PM   #23
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Yeah I have seen Drew Bledsoe lately. My question to you is, have you seen Losman play lately? All Rookies (and he essentially is a rookie) struggle. Especially JP Losman, a guy I wasn't too high on coming out of college anyway. The Bills won't win 10 games with Losman at the helm.

I get this feeling that just because your team is the SB Champs, you think that gives you credibility.
2nd year player, not a rookie.

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I have credibility because I believe I've earned it 'round here. Maybe not, but I flatter myself that I have.
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Not really? It either is or it isn't. I think when you play a team has alot to do with success. Wouldn't you agree that weather and teams getting on a role are some of the factors to consider? If so, that has to do with WHEN you play a team.
Yes, but most of that stuff balances itself out.

Dolphins fans have cried and cried over the last few years (not last year) because they always had to come up to New England in December. Of course, they conveniently ignored that NE was always going to Miami in September or early October and dealing with the heat down there.

Both teams play in the same weather. If you think you might lose because the weather favors the other team, then I can practically guarantee that you WILL lose for that reason.

Whether a team is on a roll or not is impossible to tell until they're on it, so it doesn't much matter. Besides, maybe YOU'LL be the ones on a roll.
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Old 04-13-2005, 02:16 PM   #25
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Yes, but most of that stuff balances itself out.

Dolphins fans have cried and cried over the last few years (not last year) because they always had to come up to New England in December. Of course, they conveniently ignored that NE was always going to Miami in September or early October and dealing with the heat down there.

Both teams play in the same weather. If you think you might lose because the weather favors the other team, then I can practically guarantee that you WILL lose for that reason.

Whether a team is on a roll or not is impossible to tell until they're on it, so it doesn't much matter. Besides, maybe YOU'LL be the ones on a roll.
I agree that you are either a good team or not, but my point was when you play a team does have some barring. I'm not complaining about the schedule, but I do see some more favorable schedules out there.
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I agree that you are either a good team or not, but my point was when you play a team does have some barring. I'm not complaining about the schedule, but I do see some more favorable schedules out there.
Sure. The entire NFC probably has a more favorable schedule than any AFC team, for instance. Move KC into the NFC (any division) and you'd have to think 9+ wins (and a playoff berth) was guaranteed.
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Donx at Arrowhead in December....

Seems like that's nearly every year, too. I like it.
Lamar must be giving Tags some serious handjobs for this to keep happening...

Also, while Lossman is not a rookie ... he's not a veteran. 3 completions on 5 attempts for 32 yards an an INT... he's greatly inexperienced, but he does have nice skill players around him.

We'll see pretty soon what his learning curve will be.
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Sure. The entire NFC probably has a more favorable schedule than any AFC team, for instance. Move KC into the NFC (any division) and you'd have to think 9+ wins (and a playoff berth) was guaranteed.
Okay. Now we're on the same page.
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Im glad we didn't get a start like NE. 4 of first 6 on the road is friggin tough. Jeez.

That being said at Oakland and Denver in prime time won't be a cake walk either.
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