NCAA bans American Indian mascot names in the postseason - Page 2

**Saulbadguy** · 08-05-2005, 09:28 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735

NCAA American Indian mascot ban will begin Feb. 1
Associated Press

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA banned the use of American Indian mascots by sports teams during its postseason tournaments, but will not prohibit them otherwise.

The NCAA's Executive Committee decided this week the organization did not have the authority to bar Indian mascots by individual schools, committee chairman Walter Harrison said Friday.

Nicknames or mascots deemed "hostile or abusive" would not be allowed by teams on their uniforms or other clothing beginning with any NCAA tournament after Feb. 1, said Harrison, the University of Hartford's president.

"What each institution decides to do is really its own business" outside NCAA championship events, he said.

Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered "hostile or abusive."

The NCAA two years ago recommended that schools determine for themselves whether the Indian depictions were offensive.

Among the schools to change nicknames in recent years over such concerns were St. John's (from Redmen to Red Storm) and Marquette (from Warriors to Golden Eagles).

The NCAA plans to ban schools using Indian nicknames from hosting postseason events. Harrison said schools with such mascots that have already been selected as tournament sites would be asked to cover any offensive logos.

Such logos also would be prohibited at postseason games on cheerleader and band uniforms starting in 2008.

Chest Rockwell · 08-05-2005, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2125735
Guidelines were not immediately available on which logos and nicknames would be considered "hostile or abusive."

Of course they weren't. That would require the proponents of this bullshite to actually posses a set of balls and take ownership of this cluster.

Anybody know of any teams this will affect currently as-is?

Other than the Brooklyn University Greasy Wops, the Upper East Side State Greedy Kikes, the Southern Georgia State Runnin' Porch Monkeys and the Central Arkansas State Trailer Park Crackers?

htismaqe · 08-05-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

[Hitler voice] Good. Let's destroy any memory of their existence. [/Hitler voice]

Bingo.

Making the Fighting Sioux change their nickname erases yet one more thing that helps people remember that there are even Sioux left in this country.

Scaga · 08-05-2005, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?

MODS...ban him

OmahaChief · 08-05-2005, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Even the Seminole tribe said they were HONORED by having Florida State use their name. Good job, NCAA.

Good thing though is the school can keep their names if they want, just can't use it on their uni's in tournaments.

Yes they are honroed by the greenbacks that are paid to them by FSU to use the name. Of course these are "donations" to the nation but it is significant money they are awarded each year.

**cdcox** · 08-05-2005, 09:41 AM

Inidan Names -> Chiefs -> H. Roe Bartle -> Boy Scouts -> Mic-O-Say

**ptlyon** · 08-05-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

That really wouldn't fit for 80% or more of the players.

HEY! What are you saying about our team?

htismaqe · 08-05-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

Of course they weren't. That would require the proponents of this bullshite to actually posses a set of balls and take ownership of this cluster.

Anybody know of any teams this will affect currently as-is?

Other than the Brooklyn University Greasy Wops, the Upper East Side State Greedy Kikes, the Southern Georgia State Runnin' Porch Monkeys and the Central Arkansas State Trailer Park Crackers?

Damn, I guess I'm gonna have to change my FFL team name. I never dreamed the Knoxville Sprint Car Rednecks would be offensive.

**ptlyon** · 08-05-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief

My family has very stong ties to the Cherokee Nation with my Greatgradmother being a full blooded Cherokee.

No kidding? I'm part Fakawee. Maybe we're related?

htismaqe · 08-05-2005, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OmahaChief

If they really want to be sensitive to the plight of the American Indian they could do more to encourage commerce and provide better schools on reservations. Simply making teams change their name serves no purpose other then to pat themselves on the back for being politically correct.

Chest Rockwell · 08-05-2005, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Damn, I guess I'm gonna have to change my FFL team name. I never dreamed the Knoxville Sprint Car Rednecks would be offensive.

Oh, hell yeah. PETA's on my ass for my team:

The Rocky Mountain Murder Monkeys.

Evidently I'm unfairly projecting an image of violence on the peace-loving creatures.

Kclee · 08-05-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?

The 'CHEFS' of course. Have you seen that guy on Hells Kitchen? He's mean as hell. And instead of the arrowhead, put a big turkey drumstick dripping with gravey. I think that would strike fear in opponents. Well, until all the chefs in america get together and say that's not PC.

Uatu · 08-05-2005, 09:47 AM

Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'.

I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.

htismaqe · 08-05-2005, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chest Rockwell

Oh, hell yeah. PETA's on my ass for my team:

The Rocky Mountain Murder Monkeys.

Evidently I'm unfairly projecting an image of violence on the peace-loving creatures.

Monkeys hate violence.

That's why it's much better to euthanize them and dump them illegally in a ditch.

chagrin · 08-05-2005, 09:49 AM

The term 'warrior' is abviously hostile AND abusive - what's wrong with you people?!?!?!

ROYC75 · 08-05-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

What would you guys choose for an alternate name for KC should this craziness extend into the NFL?

Just you wait until the animal rights activist chime in........No damn horse or bronco ever wanted to be a Denver fan.

08-05-2005, 09:28 AM
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Uatu Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Blue Area Casino cash: $10004900	Mile High Mania, I know there's an arrowhead and stuff on the logo and the stadium is named after the same, but the Chiefs were actually named after a KC mayor whose nickname was 'the chief'. I don't think the Chiefs do any dishonor to native American traditions. You can barely see the influence anywhere except the arrowhead logo.
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