Ty Law : To the Jets, it's over. - Page 4

ROYC75 · 08-08-2005, 07:37 AM

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Ty Law has agreed to a multiyear deal with the New York Jets on Sunday, his publicist Elita Lee, told the New York Times on Sunday.

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2004 SEASON STATISTICS
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The Jets had reached an agreement in principle on most of the major components of a deal with the free-agent cornerback, sources told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. However, there remained some financial sticking points and tricky contract language to iron out after negotiating sessions on Thursday and Friday.

Law, who has spent the offseason rehabilitating from a left foot injury that limited him to seven games in 2004, also must pass a physical examination.

The contract is expected to be for at least three years and could average $6 million per season, sources told ESPN.com. On paper, the contract might well be longer in term, but it is generally agreed that, for practical purposes, both sides anticipate that Law will play three seasons. What will be the most interesting element in the deal is its structure because the Jets must protect themselves against injuries or the possibility that Law is not yet 100 percent.

New York has stayed in touch with Law and his agents for the past few months, and the retirement of veteran corner Donnie Abraham two weeks ago left the Jets in need of a replacement.

A healthy Law would be a high-profile addition and help compensate for the exit of Abraham, who retired to spend more time with his family and to pursue a number of business opportunities.

Law is said to have great admiration for Jets coach Herm Edwards, a superior salesman and recruiter, and the two have spoken at various times in the offseason. Law has also gotten sales pitches from Jets tailback Curtis Martin and secondary coach Corwin Brown, both of whom were onetime teammates of his in New England. He also has a 5-year-old daughter who lives in New York.

Law, 31, last year turned down a four-year, $24 million offer from New England, which released him in February for salary cap reasons. He had been adamant this offseason about not accepting a minimum-salary contract and has publicly stated he wants a deal commensurate to his status as a four-time Pro Bowl performer. Privately, though, Law has conceded to confidants that he understands he will probably not land a contract that meets all his demands. It appears the Jets will pay him a signing bonus of at least $5 million as part of his deal

neckdemon · 08-08-2005, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Listen Necklicker, 24-17 is no owning, you wont be here to take your licks, and we will score more than 24 points on you. Clear? Good.

why you getting hostile? i have been saying all along that it will be a hard fought game and that i think we will come out on top though. and I WILL come back either way. i'm not here to be a troll, just want to debate whose team will win.

Nightfyre · 08-08-2005, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

why you getting hostile? i have been saying all along that it will be a hard fought game and that i think we will come out on top though. and I WILL come back either way. i'm not here to be a troll, just want to debate whose team will win.

Well, dont expect to come to this website, talking smack about how you are going to own us and not receive some smack back. There is no hostility. As for your trolldom--Like your 2nd year safety, yet to be decided.

htismaqe · 08-08-2005, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

why you getting hostile? i have been saying all along that it will be a hard fought game and that i think we will come out on top though. and I WILL come back either way. i'm not here to be a troll, just want to debate whose team will win.

You want to debate whose team will win? I guess I missed the part where you said "Who's team do you think will win?" Maybe I was too busy reading the "we will OWN you" stuff...

bobbything · 08-08-2005, 10:02 AM

The Jets do have a good defense. A very good defense. However, I just don't see how they have enough to effectively hold KC to 17 points, on opening day, at Arrowhead.

Realistically, I see KC winning this game, not easily, but by a comfortable margin; 7 points or so. The offense will most likely rack up about 28+ points. If all things are clicking, expect 35+.

My prediction is 28-21.

neckdemon · 08-08-2005, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Who did you sign at CB?

And at Safety, you're just going to assume that a couple of 2nd-year players will step up their play this year?

well for one we signed ty law. we also drafted justin miller who is immensely talented and ha sbeen ripping it up at camp thus far. we also have a player named derek strait who is a pretty good nickel/dime back. at safety we have eric coleman who came in and pretty much excelled inhis starting role last year. we got rid of reggie tongue and mcgraw is healthy. we also have 2 draftees in rhodes and maddox who are incredibly gifted athletes and have been making big plays in camp so far.

neckdemon · 08-08-2005, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You want to debate whose team will win? I guess I missed the part where you said "Who's team do you think will win?" Maybe I was too busy reading the "we will OWN you" stuff...

well i came in and said law will be out there helping shut down your passing game. just a little fun jab to get the debate going. i didnt say anything about "owning" until nytefyre called me neck-licker (whatever that means) and started with it.

neckdemon · 08-08-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

The Jets do have a good defense. A very good defense. However, I just don't see how they have enough to effectively hold KC to 17 points, on opening day, at Arrowhead.

Realistically, I see KC winning this game, not easily, but by a comfortable margin; 7 points or so. The offense will most likely rack up about 28+ points. If all things are clicking, expect 35+.

My prediction is 28-21.

honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.

08-08-2005, 10:09 AM

Another view.

Law In, Mickens Out
By Sean M. Deegan
Publisher, JetsInsider.com
sdeegan@jetsinsider.com August 8th, 2005

Jets Head Coach Herm Edwards officially announced this morning that the team has agreed in principal to a long term deal with All-Pro CB Ty Law. To make room for Law the team released 10 year veteran CB Ray Mickens. Law is at Hofstra completing a physical this morning and could be introduced to the media as early as this afternoon. Details of his contract are not yet known. Mickens, who was coming back from an injured knee suffered last year was used mainly as a nickel back during his Jet career and was expected to take over as the Jets starting left cornerback due to the retirement of former starter Donnie Abraham earlier this summer. In addition to Mickens, the team also announced the release of S Derek Pagel, G Dave Yovanovits, RB Delvin Joyce and CB Roosevelt Williams.

Nightfyre · 08-08-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

well for one we signed ty law. we also drafted justin miller who is immensely talented and ha sbeen ripping it up at camp thus far. we also have a player named derek strait who is a pretty good nickel/dime back. at safety we have eric coleman who came in and pretty much excelled inhis starting role last year. we got rid of reggie tongue and mcgraw is healthy. we also have 2 draftees in rhodes and maddox who are incredibly gifted athletes and have been making big plays in camp so far.

Well, if were going on speculation, our D will be number one next year because Mitchell, and Derrick Johnson, and Kendrell Bell, and Pat Surtain, and Sammy Knight, and Carlos Hall, Make our defense a top 10, paired with the number one offense. then, Allen will inherently improve, along with sims, dalton, and browning.

htismaqe · 08-08-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

well for one we signed ty law. we also drafted justin miller who is immensely talented and ha sbeen ripping it up at camp thus far. we also have a player named derek strait who is a pretty good nickel/dime back. at safety we have eric coleman who came in and pretty much excelled inhis starting role last year. we got rid of reggie tongue and mcgraw is healthy. we also have 2 draftees in rhodes and maddox who are incredibly gifted athletes and have been making big plays in camp so far.

First of all, let me remind you of a minor, somewhat trivial issue:

YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED TY LAW.

The 2 parties have agreed, in principle, to a deal that it contingent on Law passing a physical. There's a better-than-good chance that Law CANNOT pass a physical.

Justin Miller is immensely talented. He also isn't the most disciplined person in the world. He could be a big boom, or a big bust. The fact that you're counting on him says alot already.

Derek Strait is as good a nickel back as Benny Sapp. Who, you ask? Exactly.

Coleman and McGraw are ok. They're also very young. Coleman (his name is Erik with a K, by the way) may be more athletic than Tongue, but Tongue's experience should not be discounted...more on that later.

2 draftees - translation - 2 guys that may or may not make it out of training camp.

Tongue is gone, Abraham retired, and now you've released Mickens...you have a rookie and several 2nd-year players in your secondary. No veteran leadership whatsoever. You MIGHT have gotten Law, which will help. Lack of leadership like that is a recipe for disaster.

Nightfyre · 08-08-2005, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.

Yeah, maybe you missed the part about our whole best offense in the nfl.... Your defense is good, Ill give you that. But no defense can shutdown the Chiefs when they are on. And I didnt call you a necklicker til you said own. Get your facts straight.

htismaqe · 08-08-2005, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by neckdemon

honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.

One of the best in the takeaway/giveaway category...with Donnie Abraham, Mickens, and Reggie Tongue.

Losing a starting S, CB, and NCB shouldn't be so lightly dismissed.

htismaqe · 08-08-2005, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Yeah, maybe you missed the part about our whole best offense in the nfl.... Your defense is good, Ill give you that. But no defense can shutdown the Chiefs when they are on. And I didnt call you a necklicker til you said own. Get your facts straight.

He selectively forgot this:

hello, jets fan here. guarantee you are wrong on this one. he WILL be our starting cb and he'll be shutting down your passing game come sept 11!

Nightfyre · 08-08-2005, 10:19 AM

Hey, necklicker, we faced three defenses better than you last year a total of four times. Twice we were really out of sync.
Broncos:24 (out of sync)
Baltimore: 27
Tampa Bay: 31 (Out of Sync)
Broncos: 45
For those of us keeping score, thats an average of 31.5 ppg.

Coogs · 08-08-2005, 10:20 AM

2004 Jets regular season... 10-6

The 10 wins...

49ers 2-14
Fish 4-12
Fish 4-12
Browns 4-12
Cards 6-10
Texans 7-9
Bengals 8-8
Bills 9-7
Seahawk 9-7
Chargers 12-4

After a 5-0 start, the Jets were 5-6 the rest of the way. So while I am concerned with the first game, the Jets are a bit overrated IMO.

08-08-2005, 07:37 AM
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2287400	Ty Law : To the Jets, it's over. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2128536 Law's publicist says Law to join JetsESPN.com news services Related Video: Players and coaches involved in melee Ty Law has agreed to a multiyear deal with the New York Jets on Sunday, his publicist Elita Lee, told the New York Times on Sunday. Ty Law Cornerback New England Patriots Profile 2004 SEASON STATISTICS Tot Ast Solo FF Sack Int 28 23 5 0 0 1 The Jets had reached an agreement in principle on most of the major components of a deal with the free-agent cornerback, sources told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. However, there remained some financial sticking points and tricky contract language to iron out after negotiating sessions on Thursday and Friday. Law, who has spent the offseason rehabilitating from a left foot injury that limited him to seven games in 2004, also must pass a physical examination. The contract is expected to be for at least three years and could average $6 million per season, sources told ESPN.com. On paper, the contract might well be longer in term, but it is generally agreed that, for practical purposes, both sides anticipate that Law will play three seasons. What will be the most interesting element in the deal is its structure because the Jets must protect themselves against injuries or the possibility that Law is not yet 100 percent. New York has stayed in touch with Law and his agents for the past few months, and the retirement of veteran corner Donnie Abraham two weeks ago left the Jets in need of a replacement. A healthy Law would be a high-profile addition and help compensate for the exit of Abraham, who retired to spend more time with his family and to pursue a number of business opportunities. Law is said to have great admiration for Jets coach Herm Edwards, a superior salesman and recruiter, and the two have spoken at various times in the offseason. Law has also gotten sales pitches from Jets tailback Curtis Martin and secondary coach Corwin Brown, both of whom were onetime teammates of his in New England. He also has a 5-year-old daughter who lives in New York. Law, 31, last year turned down a four-year, $24 million offer from New England, which released him in February for salary cap reasons. He had been adamant this offseason about not accepting a minimum-salary contract and has publicly stated he wants a deal commensurate to his status as a four-time Pro Bowl performer. Privately, though, Law has conceded to confidants that he understands he will probably not land a contract that meets all his demands. It appears the Jets will pay him a signing bonus of at least $5 million as part of his deal
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08-08-2005, 10:02 AM	#49
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	The Jets do have a good defense. A very good defense. However, I just don't see how they have enough to effectively hold KC to 17 points, on opening day, at Arrowhead. Realistically, I see KC winning this game, not easily, but by a comfortable margin; 7 points or so. The offense will most likely rack up about 28+ points. If all things are clicking, expect 35+. My prediction is 28-21.
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08-08-2005, 10:09 AM	#53
Electric Guest Casino cash: $	Another view. Law In, Mickens Out By Sean M. Deegan Publisher, JetsInsider.com sdeegan@jetsinsider.com August 8th, 2005 Jets Head Coach Herm Edwards officially announced this morning that the team has agreed in principal to a long term deal with All-Pro CB Ty Law. To make room for Law the team released 10 year veteran CB Ray Mickens. Law is at Hofstra completing a physical this morning and could be introduced to the media as early as this afternoon. Details of his contract are not yet known. Mickens, who was coming back from an injured knee suffered last year was used mainly as a nickel back during his Jet career and was expected to take over as the Jets starting left cornerback due to the retirement of former starter Donnie Abraham earlier this summer. In addition to Mickens, the team also announced the release of S Derek Pagel, G Dave Yovanovits, RB Delvin Joyce and CB Roosevelt Williams.
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08-08-2005, 10:19 AM	#59
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1348849	Hey, necklicker, we faced three defenses better than you last year a total of four times. Twice we were really out of sync. Broncos:24 (out of sync) Baltimore: 27 Tampa Bay: 31 (Out of Sync) Broncos: 45 For those of us keeping score, thats an average of 31.5 ppg.
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08-08-2005, 10:20 AM	#60
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2085651	2004 Jets regular season... 10-6 The 10 wins... 49ers 2-14 Fish 4-12 Fish 4-12 Browns 4-12 Cards 6-10 Texans 7-9 Bengals 8-8 Bills 9-7 Seahawk 9-7 Chargers 12-4 After a 5-0 start, the Jets were 5-6 the rest of the way. So while I am concerned with the first game, the Jets are a bit overrated IMO.
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