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Old 08-08-2005, 07:37 AM  
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Ty Law : To the Jets, it's over.

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Ty Law has agreed to a multiyear deal with the New York Jets on Sunday, his publicist Elita Lee, told the New York Times on Sunday.

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The Jets had reached an agreement in principle on most of the major components of a deal with the free-agent cornerback, sources told ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli. However, there remained some financial sticking points and tricky contract language to iron out after negotiating sessions on Thursday and Friday.

Law, who has spent the offseason rehabilitating from a left foot injury that limited him to seven games in 2004, also must pass a physical examination.

The contract is expected to be for at least three years and could average $6 million per season, sources told ESPN.com. On paper, the contract might well be longer in term, but it is generally agreed that, for practical purposes, both sides anticipate that Law will play three seasons. What will be the most interesting element in the deal is its structure because the Jets must protect themselves against injuries or the possibility that Law is not yet 100 percent.

New York has stayed in touch with Law and his agents for the past few months, and the retirement of veteran corner Donnie Abraham two weeks ago left the Jets in need of a replacement.

A healthy Law would be a high-profile addition and help compensate for the exit of Abraham, who retired to spend more time with his family and to pursue a number of business opportunities.

Law is said to have great admiration for Jets coach Herm Edwards, a superior salesman and recruiter, and the two have spoken at various times in the offseason. Law has also gotten sales pitches from Jets tailback Curtis Martin and secondary coach Corwin Brown, both of whom were onetime teammates of his in New England. He also has a 5-year-old daughter who lives in New York.

Law, 31, last year turned down a four-year, $24 million offer from New England, which released him in February for salary cap reasons. He had been adamant this offseason about not accepting a minimum-salary contract and has publicly stated he wants a deal commensurate to his status as a four-time Pro Bowl performer. Privately, though, Law has conceded to confidants that he understands he will probably not land a contract that meets all his demands. It appears the Jets will pay him a signing bonus of at least $5 million as part of his deal
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:22 AM   #61
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honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment. not saying it isnt possible, but its going to take a few turnovers to go your way for that to happen, and the jets are one of the best in the takeaway.giveaway category. not to mention one of the least penalized teams in the league.
Chiefs offense vs. top 10 defenses:

2002 - #10 Cleveland (40 pts), #4 Miami (48 pts)
2003 - #5 Buffalo (38 pts), #9 Denver (24 and 27 pts)
2004 - #4 Denver (24 and 45 pts), #6 Baltimore (27 pts), #9 Tampa (31 pts)

And just for good measure, Atlanta had one of the best, if not the best, run defense in the league last season, and KC destroyed them to the tune of 8 rushing touchdowns.

The Chiefs, since 2002, have only been held to under 20 points 11 times in 3 years. And only under 17 points on 4 occasions.

Good luck.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:24 AM   #62
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First of all, let me remind you of a minor, somewhat trivial issue:

YOU HAVE NOT SIGNED TY LAW.

The 2 parties have agreed, in principle, to a deal that it contingent on Law passing a physical. There's a better-than-good chance that Law CANNOT pass a physical.

Justin Miller is immensely talented. He also isn't the most disciplined person in the world. He could be a big boom, or a big bust. The fact that you're counting on him says alot already.

Derek Strait is as good a nickel back as Benny Sapp. Who, you ask? Exactly.

Coleman and McGraw are ok. They're also very young. Coleman (his name is Erik with a K, by the way) may be more athletic than Tongue, but Tongue's experience should not be discounted...more on that later.

2 draftees - translation - 2 guys that may or may not make it out of training camp.

Tongue is gone, Abraham retired, and now you've released Mickens...you have a rookie and several 2nd-year players in your secondary. No veteran leadership whatsoever. You MIGHT have gotten Law, which will help. Lack of leadership like that is a recipe for disaster.
you really think we would have released ray mickens if law isn't going to be a jet? its money in the bank. hes a jet and hes healthy. im not counting on miller to be a starting cb, but the guy is a big talent. and he is going to be making plays in the nickel/dime for us this year, you 'll see. there is no drop off from strait to mini-me mickens in the nickelback postion. coleman and mcgraw are ok? thats quite an understatement, mcgraw may be injury prone but if he satys healthy the guy is a dominant safety. like i said he shut down antonio gates, and that saying something. coleman, as a rookie, had 73 tackles, 4 interceptions, 2 sacks, and 9 passes defensed last year. those are pretty nice stats, expect at least that from him this year. tongue was a disappointment last year, plain and simple. its addition by subtraction. and the 2 draftees have a TON of upside. one of which we actually traded up to grab. and they are doing nothing but making plays in TC. you can expect them to make the team this year, and contribute.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:27 AM   #63
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they are doing nothing but making plays in TC. you can expect them to contribute.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:29 AM   #64
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2004 Jets regular season... 10-6

2004 Chiefs regular season.......7-9

what ur point?

we made it within one shitty place kicker of the afc championship game.
where were the chiefs?
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:30 AM   #65
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:31 AM   #66
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2004 Chiefs regular season.......7-9

what ur point?

we made it within one shitty place kicker of the afc championship game.
where were the chiefs?
Blah blah blah. Like we couldnt have kicked the fins, browns and 9ers around. Get a real schedule.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:33 AM   #67
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Why do people go to another team's board, run smack about how their new benchweight is going to kick our arses, and expect people to be hospitable? Of course you're going to get slapped down. You came onto Chiefs turf and started showing your arse.

By the way, after watching the Jets O put up a whopping 10 points on the Browns D last year, I think our defense can handle it. Quincy Carter or no.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:34 AM   #68
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Why do people go to another team's board, run smack about how their new benchweight is going to kick our arses, and expect people to be hospitable? Of course you're going to get slapped down. You came onto Chiefs turf and started showing your arse.

By the way, after watching the Jets O put up a whopping 10 points on the Browns D last year, I think our defense can handle it. Quincy Carter or no.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:39 AM   #69
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Why do people go to another team's board, run smack about how their new benchweight is going to kick our arses, and expect people to be hospitable? Of course you're going to get slapped down. You came onto Chiefs turf and started showing your arse.

By the way, after watching the Jets O put up a whopping 10 points on the Browns D last year, I think our defense can handle it. Quincy Carter or no.

i dont care if you're hospitable or not, i was just making a point that the man was getting all testy. possibly to due to bitterness of not getting law for your own team. oh and, fwiw, ur comparing a game in which we had an already unimaginative OC calling a watered down version of his already watered down play-book for a coke-head qb. makes alot of sense! no to mention the fact that we have coles back and a tight end that can catch now. our offense is alot different than what you saw in cleveland.
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i dont care if you're hospitable or not, i was just making a point that the man was getting all testy. possibly to due to bitterness of not getting law for your own team. oh and, fwiw, ur comparing a game in which we had an already unimaginative OC calling a watered down version of his already watered down play-book for a coke-head qb. makes alot of sense! no to mention the fact that we have coles back and a tight end that can catch now. our offense is alot different than what you saw in cleveland.
We know all about Paul Hackett in KC. Go to hell for reminding us. As for me getting ticked off, I havent yet, but youre trying my patience. YOU initiated smack. Dont expect us to sit here and take it necklicker.
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:43 AM   #71
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you really think we would have released ray mickens if law isn't going to be a jet? its money in the bank. hes a jet and hes healthy. im not counting on miller to be a starting cb, but the guy is a big talent. and he is going to be making plays in the nickel/dime for us this year, you 'll see. there is no drop off from strait to mini-me mickens in the nickelback postion. coleman and mcgraw are ok? thats quite an understatement, mcgraw may be injury prone but if he satys healthy the guy is a dominant safety. like i said he shut down antonio gates, and that saying something. coleman, as a rookie, had 73 tackles, 4 interceptions, 2 sacks, and 9 passes defensed last year. those are pretty nice stats, expect at least that from him this year. tongue was a disappointment last year, plain and simple. its addition by subtraction. and the 2 draftees have a TON of upside. one of which we actually traded up to grab. and they are doing nothing but making plays in TC. you can expect them to make the team this year, and contribute.
Thanks for making my point. Your entire premise (that your going to shut down an offense that NOBODY else in the NFL has figured out) is based on nothing but what-ifs.

1) You're banking that Law can play from Day 1 before he's even passed a physical. Wish in one hand, shit in the other...

2) You're banking on Justin Miller and Derek Strait to make plays at the nickel. Miller is a rookie with some head issues, Strait is a situational player. Neither of them is proven.

3) McGraw is injury prone and you admit it. That right there is a question mark. I don't care if the guy is Ronnie Lott, if he's not on the field, he's not doing jack. He shut down Gates ONE TIME. It could be a fluke.

4) Coleman had a great rookie season. It was just that, a rookie season. Lots of guys have great rookie seasons and then fall off. That's why they call it a "sophomore slump". Again, it was one season. Can he do it again this year? Maybe. But until he does it more than one season, you've got nothing but hope.

5) Draftees with upside don't win games. Sorry.

Everything you've just told me is 100% speculation. Your defense was stout last year. And this year they're counting on several young players to step up and replace what was lost.

And I didn't even mention the gaping hole in your argument.

You're ASSUMING that Ty Law will be ready and will start. You're EXPECTING Justin Miller and Derek Strait to make plays at nickel.

Who are you expecting to start at the other CB spot?
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i dont care if you're hospitable or not, i was just making a point that the man was getting all testy. possibly to due to bitterness of not getting law for your own team. oh and, fwiw, ur comparing a game in which we had an already unimaginative OC calling a watered down version of his already watered down play-book for a coke-head qb. makes alot of sense! no to mention the fact that we have coles back and a tight end that can catch now. our offense is alot different than what you saw in cleveland.
Oh yeah, Coles. Isn't he that guy who only caught 1 touchdown last year?

Besides, IF Law is healthy, all your points about him apply equally to Surtain. Surtain > Coles
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Old 08-08-2005, 10:43 AM   #73
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honestly if you can realistically expect the chiefs to score around 30 points on our defense then you are setting yourslef up for a disappointment.
I'm still waiting....

Tick, tick, tick...
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I think the Jet fan should be more worried about the fact that Thier Starting QB will be sitting on the sideline With Law, than the fact that Law won't be in shape, hasn't passed a physical or played in a snap in a year.

Right now, Jetfan....your QB's arm is weaker than your unmedicated erectile function.
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