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Old 08-25-2005, 04:25 PM   #1
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I have this feeling that you'll be saying the same thing once he starts missing games. It's so obvious there is a problem.

You changed things - you said "all" the first time. I still can't see how you can now rationally say he has put in just as much work as any other defensive player when he has been held out from contact? And just yesterday he was held out of 11-on-11 drills. How many of those has he been held out of? So again, your statement is not accurate - even though it's been softened from "all" to "as much work."

You, like the rest of us, don't have a clue here - and it's obvious.
How can you possibly say I don't have a clue? I watched the guy practice live, and I've been to camp the last 4 years. Do you actually know how much they hit in TC?? Very little. I guess if you want to really be picky, Bell hasn't put in ALL the work because he didn't participate in the MAYBE 2 practices that were totally live. Other than that, he didn't miss a practice.

Bell looked healthy in my eyes. Obviously there is a problem with the shoulder. Could be cautionary, could be more serious then expected. All I am saying is that from watching him live, he looked as healthy as an other LB, and has put in the work this summer.
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Old 08-25-2005, 08:58 PM   #2
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How can you possibly say I don't have a clue? I watched the guy practice live, and I've been to camp the last 4 years. Do you actually know how much they hit in TC?? Very little. I guess if you want to really be picky, Bell hasn't put in ALL the work because he didn't participate in the MAYBE 2 practices that were totally live. Other than that, he didn't miss a practice.

Bell looked healthy in my eyes. Obviously there is a problem with the shoulder. Could be cautionary, could be more serious then expected. All I am saying is that from watching him live, he looked as healthy as an other LB, and has put in the work this summer.
I said, you like the rest of us, don't have a clue so I included myself in there as well. Yes, I know there is limited hitting in TC and I know you were there and have seen it first hand. I also stated in another post that you are pretty credible so that's why I can't understand how/why you keep insisting that Bell will be fine when he's been held out of the limited contact in training camp. Being able to move well in shorts is far different that being able to do so in pads.

Now, D.V. is sensing that Bell is holding back and just last week Bell instructed folks to "watch" him and see for themselves if he could play. Way too much smoke to not be an issue IMO.

I'm not being picky, at least I don't mean to be - the fact is Bell is not right and this is the FIRST time that I've seen where you have even hinted that there could be a problem.
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Old 08-25-2005, 10:30 PM   #3
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I said, you like the rest of us, don't have a clue so I included myself in there as well. Yes, I know there is limited hitting in TC and I know you were there and have seen it first hand. I also stated in another post that you are pretty credible so that's why I can't understand how/why you keep insisting that Bell will be fine when he's been held out of the limited contact in training camp. Being able to move well in shorts is far different that being able to do so in pads.

Now, D.V. is sensing that Bell is holding back and just last week Bell instructed folks to "watch" him and see for themselves if he could play. Way too much smoke to not be an issue IMO.

I'm not being picky, at least I don't mean to be - the fact is Bell is not right and this is the FIRST time that I've seen where you have even hinted that there could be a problem.
I never insisted anything. I just posted my opinion on what I saw of Bell at camp. I do feel as though I know a little bit more about Bell because I've seen him live this TC. The last time most people on this board saw him play was 2003.

Bell may very well miss 16 games...I'm just telling you the feeling I got of Bell, watching him two times a day for a week straight.
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Old 08-26-2005, 06:36 AM   #4
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I never insisted anything. I just posted my opinion on what I saw of Bell at camp. I do feel as though I know a little bit more about Bell because I've seen him live this TC. The last time most people on this board saw him play was 2003.

Bell may very well miss 16 games...I'm just telling you the feeling I got of Bell, watching him two times a day for a week straight.
Man, I don'y know WHAT to think anymore. The fact that Bell was going to play tommorow and now is not, doesn't sit well with me.

You could hear the frustration in Vermiel's voice yesterday during his interview.
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