Arbitrator who decided on Owens case to be dismissed by NFLPA - Page 2

Mecca · 11-23-2005, 02:44 PM

Gene Upshaw commented that he "interpreted the rule wrong and added on to the agreement things that weren't there". Then went on to say a person like that can't be an arbitrator.

So Richard Bloch is out of a job due to his decision.

Chiefnj · 11-23-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

Things.....you know....things.

Unmentionable things.

Silky, lacy, sheer unmentionable things.

Silky, lacy, sheer things used to strangle cute little kittens?

(I love outdated cross-thread humor).

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by chagrin

I am glad to see this end for now.

It's just getting started. Probably turn into the biggest NFLPA grievance to date. The NFLPA doesn't have a leg to stand on in this case and should be publicly humiliated.

ChiefsFanatic · 11-23-2005, 11:14 PM

Sort of like the MLB owners. The Commisioner doesn't do things their way, so they get a flunkie instead.

Logical · 11-23-2005, 11:26 PM

Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.

Same case here. The grievance is over his suspension, not that he be banned from football. It just seems like no team would have him now after fighting with teammates. Much like most employers wouldn't hire him after finding out that he fought with co-workers on a regular basis.

Logical · 11-23-2005, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OldTownChief

Same case here. The grievance is over his suspension, not that he be banned from football. It just seems like no team would have him now after fighting with teammates. Much like most employers wouldn't hire him after finding out that he fought with co-workers on a regular basis.

Whether they would or would not is not the point. The point is that he would have the opportunity to try in any other profession.

Personally I have no doubt that if the Eagles released him tomorrow he would be playing for someone in the NFL in two weeks.

pikesome · 11-23-2005, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.

But that isn't what is going to happen. He gets his money just like his contract says, just short 4 games worth for the suspension and part of the bonus (that's a clause in the contract he signed). The only way one could look at this as bad for TO is that it prevents him from possibly performing well enough to land a bigger contract with his next team. With all of the other problems I think his on field play is going to be the least of anyone's worries come contract time.

People forget that there is a contract, a legal document both sides agreed to. The Eagles can't screw him out of any money he hasn't already given them permission to take back. The suspension is part of the CBA and the bonus return was written just for his contract when he signed it.

With respect to TO's livelihood, the only hurt he will suffer from this is his pride. The money lost is small compared to what he already has received and justified. It's not like they don't have cause to get that money back.

I wish I could get a deal like this when I started work. I could be setting at home getting paid to do nothing because I couldn't get along with my co-workers. That is the way people should be looking at this. If you got on TV and told the world your boss is shit, what do you think your company would do?

OldTownChief · 11-23-2005, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Whether they would or would not is not the point. The point is that he would have the opportunity to try in any other profession.

Personally I have no doubt that if the Eagles released him tomorrow he would be playing for someone in the NFL in two weeks.

I have no doubt in my mind that if TO walked in on the carpet and said "I QUIT" the Eagles would be more than happy to tear up his contract and give him every opportunity to seek employment elsewhere.

philfree · 11-24-2005, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.

I don't think that holds true for every profession. Doctors and Lawyers come to mind though I don't know all the facts of such things. As far as T.O.s livelihood is concerned that's something he should consider before opening his mouth. He's also made enough money that to consider him deprived is a joke. He's screwed himself and that's all there is to it. He's a class ass and I wish they'd keep his dumb ugly mug off my T.V.

PhilFree

TrueBeliever · 11-24-2005, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.

I must agree with all the disagreements to this post.

First of all, as has been mentioned, T.O. is not exactly going to be living on food stamps from this point on. Even after the suspension, he is still going to get a check for about $1 million for the remaining five games of the season. As someone who was forced to quit his job in September and who has not been able to find full-time work since, I am sick and ****ing tired of pro athletes pissing and moaning that they can't "feed their families" when they make more in one year than most of us will ever see in a lifetime of working our a**es off.

Further, you can't just "move on to another employer in any other profession." Take what happened to a friend of mine. She interviewed for a job, got invited back for a second interview, nailed it, everyone seemed to like her, she liked them, it looked like a done deal. Then she didn't get it. A while later she ran into one of the people who had interviewed her - turned out the guy would have been her boss played golf with a guy who knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew a guy who worked with her at her old job and had heard her say something mildly derogatory about that job. These people worked in different cities - there was no reason to think they would ever have known each other.

And then T.O. goes on national TV and pisses and moans about how the Eagles are "classless" and "don't pay him what he's worth", but the Eagles are being cruel and evil by not letting him work somewhere else, even though he'll still get $1 million to sit around his house not doing a damn thing. Give me a break. If he's got it so bad, why doesn't he go and work somewhere else? Let's see how he likes stocking shelves at Wal-Mart.

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Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Not to be contrary but I think the NFLPA should win this thing. It is not right a mans livelihood can be taken away just because he has a big mouth. In any other profession, he could move to another employer after termination so long as they would hire him.
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