Lee's Summit considering Pit Bull Ban

rageeumr · 06-15-2006, 09:19 AM

I can't believe this hasn't been talked about here... did I just miss it?

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14824615.htm

Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls
The Kansas City Star

Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls.

Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident.

Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people.

City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs.

"There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said.

MOhillbilly · 06-15-2006, 09:36 AM

In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause.

**BigRedChief** · 06-15-2006, 09:52 AM

As a citizen of the lovely suburban bedroom city of Lee's Summit I have a dog in this fight.

On one hand the city is a very politically correct city but it has traditionally has had a political base being Republican and very conservative.

Seat Belts, Helmuts and proventive bans are all the same kind of thing. Trying to regulate the behaviour of its citizens. If we go down that path why is cigarettes and liquor sales never a part of the discussion?

Eleazar · 06-15-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause.

Maybe they should grandfather in people who already have the dogs and are registered in the city.

How do they determine what is a Pit Bull anyways? Are they going to test the dog's DNA and see what %? Does the dog have to be 50% pit bull? Is 20% enough for the dog to be illegal?

**Dartgod** · 06-15-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr

Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people.

Well then, for God's sake, let's just ban all dogs.

Eleazar · 06-15-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Well then, for God's sake, let's just ban all dogs.

We should just ban reeruns like that from speaking.

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 10:01 AM

It's hitting all over Kansas and Missouri now. They had a meeting last night in Overland Park and there is another in Independence on the 19th. THey are selling fear at unpresidented levels right now.

Chan93lx50 · 06-15-2006, 10:03 AM

Correct me if I am wrong Pit Bull owners. The dogs are only mean if they are trained to be, otherwise they make great pets.

I suppose the major fear of this bread is their heads are so big and their jaws are like that of a snapping turtle and when they latch on they dont let go.

IMHO, any Dog can be dangerous

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Well then, for God's sake, let's just ban all dogs.

These are the breeds they are going to go after once they get some legislation passed. If you have any of these breeds you should be seriously concerned and fight against all BSL.

*American Pit Bull Terrier
*American Staffordshire Terrier
*Staffordshire Bull Terrier
*Rottweiler
*Bull Mastiff
*Doberman Pinscher
*St. Bernard
*Dogo Argentino
*German Shephard
*Akita
*Chow Chow
*Boxer
*Rhodesian Ridgeback
*Dogue de Bordeaux
*Husky
*Wolf Hybrid
*Great Pyrenees

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 10:05 AM

Here is some info on the Independence meeting. You should fight it in all areas because once they start is spreads like wild fire.

The next public city council meeting is June 19
There is "already a lady signed up to speak to the dog issue-it may or may not be on the agenda", according to the Clerk today. (I have a feeling this is Ms. Castillo with the BanPitBulls site.)
In order to speak you have to be signed up before Friday at 816-325-7010.

Form letters can be found at www.defendingdog.com or http://www.rott-n-chatter.com.

There are only a few Councilmembers with email...so any correspondance sent be sure to include the Council Aide ssaxton@indepmo.org and ask that the info be forwarded to ALL Councilmembers.

Office of the City Council
Sheila Saxton Council Aide
Phone: (816)325-7022
Fax: (816)325-7012
E-mail: ssaxton@indepmo.org

Mayor Don Reimal
Phone

816)325-7022
Home Phone

816) 461-6044
Fax

816)325-7012
Councilmember Will Swoffer
Phone

816)325-7022
Home Phone

816) 257-1888
Fax

816)325-7012
Councilmember Renee Paluka
Phone

816)325-7022
Home Phone

816) 478-8641
Fax

816)325-7012
reneepaluka@comcast.net
Councilmember Jim Page
Phone

816)325-7022
Home Phone

816) 252-1198
Fax

816)325-7012
Councilmember Jim Schultz
Council Phone

816)325-7022
Fax

816)325-7012
E-mail: onelaw3@swbell.net
**Also, please go to Ms. Castillos website (the woman who started the petition) so that you can counter some of the false information she is putting out there to get people to sign her petition. http://stoppitbullattacks.com/**
http://www.examiner.net/stories/0612...61206002.shtml

Chan93lx50 · 06-15-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

These are the breeds they are going to go after once they get some legislation passed. If you have any of these breeds you should be seriously concerned and fight against all BSL.

*American Pit Bull Terrier
*American Staffordshire Terrier
*Staffordshire Bull Terrier
*Rottweiler
*Bull Mastiff
*Doberman Pinscher
*St. Bernard
*Dogo Argentino
*German Shephard
*Akita
*Chow Chow
*Boxer
*Rhodesian Ridgeback
*Dogue de Bordeaux
*Husky
*Wolf Hybrid
*Great Pyrenees

Hmmm, so much for living in a free country?

Pennywise · 06-15-2006, 10:09 AM

Those are some sad phone numbers.

**Dartgod** · 06-15-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Boxer

What a frickin' joke. I'm not familiar with most of those breeds, but I have first hand knowledge of boxers (I just lost my 12 year old female this spring).

I don't know how anyone with a shred of intelligence could consider boxers as a dangerous breed. It is common knowledge in the dog world that boxers are one of the most gentle breeds to have around children.

Eleazar · 06-15-2006, 10:10 AM

They want to outlaw Boxers?

Half the people in Kansas City would have to move out.

Demonpenz · 06-15-2006, 10:12 AM

there are a ton of boxers around the op area

06-15-2006, 09:19 AM
rageeumr Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: St. Louis :( Casino cash: $9989900	Lee's Summit considering Pit Bull Ban I can't believe this hasn't been talked about here... did I just miss it? http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14824615.htm Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls The Kansas City Star Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls. Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident. Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people. City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs. "There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said.
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06-15-2006, 09:36 AM	#2
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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06-15-2006, 09:52 AM	#3
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $2879627 VARSITY	As a citizen of the lovely suburban bedroom city of Lee's Summit I have a dog in this fight. On one hand the city is a very politically correct city but it has traditionally has had a political base being Republican and very conservative. Seat Belts, Helmuts and proventive bans are all the same kind of thing. Trying to regulate the behaviour of its citizens. If we go down that path why is cigarettes and liquor sales never a part of the discussion? __________________ Time is worth more than money.
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06-15-2006, 10:01 AM	#7
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $4968410	It's hitting all over Kansas and Missouri now. They had a meeting last night in Overland Park and there is another in Independence on the 19th. THey are selling fear at unpresidented levels right now. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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06-15-2006, 10:03 AM	#8
Chan93lx50 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Cedar Rapids, IA Casino cash: $10004900	Correct me if I am wrong Pit Bull owners. The dogs are only mean if they are trained to be, otherwise they make great pets. I suppose the major fear of this bread is their heads are so big and their jaws are like that of a snapping turtle and when they latch on they dont let go. IMHO, any Dog can be dangerous __________________
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06-15-2006, 10:05 AM	#10
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $4968410	Here is some info on the Independence meeting. You should fight it in all areas because once they start is spreads like wild fire. The next public city council meeting is June 19 There is "already a lady signed up to speak to the dog issue-it may or may not be on the agenda", according to the Clerk today. (I have a feeling this is Ms. Castillo with the BanPitBulls site.) In order to speak you have to be signed up before Friday at 816-325-7010. Form letters can be found at www.defendingdog.com or http://www.rott-n-chatter.com. There are only a few Councilmembers with email...so any correspondance sent be sure to include the Council Aide ssaxton@indepmo.org and ask that the info be forwarded to ALL Councilmembers. Office of the City Council Sheila Saxton Council Aide Phone: (816)325-7022 Fax: (816)325-7012 E-mail: ssaxton@indepmo.org Mayor Don Reimal Phone816)325-7022 Home Phone816) 461-6044 Fax816)325-7012 Councilmember Will Swoffer Phone816)325-7022 Home Phone816) 257-1888 Fax816)325-7012 Councilmember Renee Paluka Phone816)325-7022 Home Phone816) 478-8641 Fax816)325-7012 reneepaluka@comcast.net Councilmember Jim Page Phone816)325-7022 Home Phone816) 252-1198 Fax816)325-7012 Councilmember Jim Schultz Council Phone816)325-7022 Fax816)325-7012 E-mail: onelaw3@swbell.net Also, please go to Ms. Castillos website (the woman who started the petition) so that you can counter some of the false information she is putting out there to get people to sign her petition. http://stoppitbullattacks.com/ http://www.examiner.net/stories/0612...61206002.shtml __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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06-15-2006, 10:09 AM	#12
Pennywise pew pew madafakas Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Derry, Maine Casino cash: $1754400	Those are some sad phone numbers.
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06-15-2006, 10:10 AM	#14
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	They want to outlaw Boxers? Half the people in Kansas City would have to move out.
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06-15-2006, 10:12 AM	#15
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $2972136	there are a ton of boxers around the op area __________________
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