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**DaKCMan AP** · 06-20-2006, 10:14 AM

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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Hammock Parties · 06-21-2006, 11:44 PM

Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.

burt · 06-21-2006, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'll wait until I die, after that I make no promises...

I got that.....ya lost me here......

burt · 06-21-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.

shut up n00b..........

Hammock Parties · 06-21-2006, 11:48 PM

lol, noob eh? funny how when nobody has anything to say, they call somebody a noob...

burt · 06-21-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

lol, noob eh? funny how when nobody has anything to say, they call somebody a noob...

I got lots to say....just like to say that......check yer rep....

**Rausch** · 06-21-2006, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

I got that.....ya lost me here......

Ok.

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Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

Wait until we all die.....

...

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'll wait until I die, after that I make no promises...

If I have to explain it it's not as humorous...

**luv** · 06-21-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

Its prety dumb how people take so much stock into what the bible says... If i wrote a book and had some stuff in it close to how the bible is, and told everybody to live by it and do everything it says, or you'll go to hell, wouldnt that be considered a cult? In my opinion, thats exactly what people are acting like towards religion and the bible... Its just a set of rules and guidelines that a group of people came up with to get their people to stop acting bad. Laws that are like duh to us, like no killing, no stealing, no cheating on your wife. There is no proof in the bible, and I'd love for anybody to show me some.

If you wanted to believe it, you'd try finding it yourself. Following the bible is a choice. You simply choose not to. No need in making others prove the worthiness of their beliefs.

burt · 06-21-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Ok.

...

If I have to explain it it's not as humorous...

I say that a lot................

**Rausch** · 06-21-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkerman2001

lol, noob eh? funny how when nobody has anything to say, they call somebody a noob...

Oh, I've got plenty to say.

Just ask...

|Zach| · 06-21-2006, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by luv

No need in making others prove the worthiness of their beliefs.

Yet there is a need to feel on the defensive?

Nobody can make you prove anything. You put yourself in that position.

**luv** · 06-22-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

Yet there is a need to feel on the defensive?

Nobody can make you prove anything. You put yourself in that position.

No, he was asking to be shown. If he's that interested, he can find it for himself. I'm not a close follower of the bible, but I do have my basic beliefs. People tend to roll their eyes when I talk about something I believe. I'm learning not to mention anything.

Logical · 06-22-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I think your losing it dude, seriously.

Cmon anybody pimping Pit Bulls gets your support, why would this religious leader get different treatment. It is you pet (pun intended) cause. I thouht he made an amusing point.

|Zach| · 06-22-2006, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

No, he was asking to be shown. If he's that interested, he can find it for himself. I'm not a close follower of the bible, but I do have my basic beliefs. People tend to roll their eyes when I talk about something I believe. I'm learning not to mention anything.

Bah, if someone rolls theirs eyes when I talk about something close to me then let them roll their eyes.

No reason not to go through life deliberately. Tip toeing my way through this world adjusting what I do to other people's opinions? Yuck.

**Rausch** · 06-22-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by luv

No need in making others prove the worthiness of their beliefs.

Of course there is when it's the only way to justify yours...

Logical · 06-22-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I appreciate your honest feelings. On a global level I would like you show me one ecomomically superior culture in the history of mankind that controlled their own destiny without the use of violence. Better yet I would like you to show me the fall of any such culture that wasn't somehow related to the saturation of passivism within their own community. This passive culture will eventually lead to our own downfall IMO. People like Denise know this which is why she is for it.

That is very easy, Switzerland meets your criteria without the use of violence.

06-20-2006, 10:14 AM
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5624952	New US church leader says homosexuality no sin New US church leader says homosexuality no sin Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender. Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year. Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual. "I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said. "Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender." Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away. It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand. Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo. Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother. Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions. "The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said. "The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060619/...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
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