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**DaKCMan AP** · 06-20-2006, 10:14 AM

New US church leader says homosexuality no sin

Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender.

Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year.

Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual.

"I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said.

"Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender."

Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away.

It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand.

Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo.

Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history.

The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother.

Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions.

"The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said.

"The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded."

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FAX · 06-22-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

I think the OC's had something to do with the use or utility function of the TG position.

Plus, DV's total lack of concern for the D, and willingness to innovate on a high powered O that fully utilizes a TE, and a workable athlete such as TG and bam, you have a new kind of TE.

Well, you're right about all that, Mr. bunnytrdr. Of course TG put up pretty good numbers prior to DV, but you're absolutely correct.

Maybe there's another way for me to address this problem. Perhaps I can claim that TG is the first uncontrollably violent, gun-toting, commie, atheistic, homosexual tight end ever. If that were the case, then I could safely state that he redefined the position.

FAX

Calcountry · 06-22-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

Doctors: (A) There are 700,000 physicians in the U.S. (B) Accidental deaths caused by physicians total 120,000 per year. (C) Accidental death percentage per physician is 0.171.

Guns: (A) There are 80 million gun owners in the U.S. (B) There are 1,500 accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups. (C) The percentage of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.0000188.

Statistically, then, doctors are 9,000 times more dangerous to the public health than gun owners. Fact: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR. Following the logic of liberals, we should all be warned: "Guns don't kill people. Doctors do."

So should we get rid of doctor's too?

We need to keep our guns to keep our country safe from people like Hamas getting into power. That's why he wants us to get rid of them. That
s the real reason for the 2nd amendment.

Ever watch an episode of ER?

Calcountry · 06-22-2006, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Give it up kid, the fight was over a while ago and you lost. Now they are taking turns pissing on you while you are down.

Be the kind of man you advocate in 453: don't put up fight just walk away. Feel the silky smoothness as your vagina starts to grow.

Calcountry · 06-22-2006, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dale Mercer

Read the above....and just wonder why some people do not like you.....I am sure a man of you advanced intellect can understand that when a person is being offensive...it tends to make people look for reasons to disagree. Oh, and you are offensive. Think about that....and is that the way you want to be thought of??? Is that the way you want to be portrayed through this electronic media?? If it is...maybe you should consider a career change....because you'd then be too stupid to teach our nations youth.

He craves for us to pay a University that he teaches in big bucks, so he can brainwash them with his elitist bullshit.

Calcountry · 06-22-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Please move this eyesore to the DC forum.

Who asked you chiefie? aRe you a mod now? This is the best thread this place has seen in months, nft, and you want t o move it?

It has covered ghey, fighting, guns, and now is moving into school choice.

and stay glued to the Texas Rump rangers.

Calcountry · 06-22-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

I changed my mind. This thread belongs in the romper room.

Best thread in a long time. Now this is twice that you have come in here and attempted to take the high road and act all morally superior. You are really starting to piss me off with this act. If you don't like the thread, why do you keep bumping it up with your inane posts?

Adept Havelock · 06-22-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX

Well, you're right about all that, Mr. bunnytrdr. Of course TG put up pretty good numbers prior to DV, but you're absolutely correct.

Maybe there's another way for me to address this problem. Perhaps I can claim that TG is the first uncontrollably violent, gun-toting, commie, atheistic, homosexual tight end ever. If that were the case, then I could safely state that he redefined the position.

FAX

Possibly sig-worthy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

When I die, I am just going to be a carcass full of maggots.

Don't feel too special. So will all the rest of you, except for those of us who choose cremation.

GoChiefs...you know, you could just not click on the thread. Really, try it. You might like it. Besides, you won't be a carcass full of maggots. We all know you want to have your ashes shot into space in the hopes some Jedi will take them home and put them on his mantle.

Logical · 06-22-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

THe US Department of Justice?

If somebody takes your candy ass out one day and I see I thread on here looking for sympathy I am going to laugh my ass off. You obviously have zero ability to discuss anything objectively Mr. Pipebomb. You still have failed to address your pathetic run and snitch policy you endorsed when a student is assaulted with threat of being expelled. All you gave us was theat ridiculous school pipe bomb terrorist story about that guy you know Hamas. You continue to lose all forms of credibility on this BB. Maybe you can get Logical to help you out. He seems to be sympathetic all the lowest forms of life on this BB these days.

Not sure why you chose to lump me in with Hamas on this subject. I am sympathetic to opinions I believe in, not in a particular poster. I have pretty much not agreed with Hamas on almost any subject and if you have been following along on several different topics you would see I have taken him to task. From what you quoted I am not even sure what you are referencing with this post, but I am certainly not in favor of run an snitch, on the other hand I am not sure what you are advocating either and the thread is far too large to figure it out.

Logical · 06-22-2006, 07:32 PM

I do think it is outstanding that some religious leaders are finally pulling their heads out of their asses and acknowledging that the gay lifestyle is just one of many normal alternatives that some people are genetically predisposed to follow and that it is not a sin.

Adept Havelock · 06-22-2006, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

We need to keep our guns to keep our country safe from people like Hamas getting into power. That's why he wants us to get rid of them. That's the real reason for the 2nd amendment.

go bo · 06-22-2006, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

* * *
generally, I'm not talking out of my ass. . .

but there are certainly exceptions...

sometimes even to the point where some mild mannered observer might call you fos...

go bo · 06-22-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

* * *
I am just oose. Wow. . .

typical californian ecologist type...

are you an endangered species of ooze, or just your run of the mill gooey crud?

oh wait, you said oose...

nevermind...

HolmeZz · 06-22-2006, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Which one of the ten commandments covers homosexuality?

Thou shalt not pack fudge.

**Baby Lee** · 06-22-2006, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Thou shalt not pack fudge.

Jesus, if you're gonna try humor, get it right.

"Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass."

Sheesh!!

go bo · 06-22-2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logical

I do think it is outstanding that some religious leaders are finally pulling their heads out of their asses and acknowledging that the gay lifestyle is just one of many normal alternatives that some people are genetically predisposed to follow and that it is not a sin.

i agree with you completely...

it is encouraging to see more and more religious institutions take that approach...

i can remember how dangerous it was when i was growing up to be thought of as a bundle of sticks...

beating up bundle of stickss was an expression of masculinity to some...

and nobody but nobody came out of the closet (not even liberache, who was nonetheless the biggest flaming bundle of sticks of all time, considering his affected speech, flamboyant dress and lavish performances)...

how things have changed...

(the paralells with the civil rights movement are intriguing...)

06-20-2006, 10:14 AM
DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $5624952	New US church leader says homosexuality no sin New US church leader says homosexuality no sin Mon Jun 19, 3:50 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Newly elected leader of the U.S. Episcopal Church Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori said on Monday she believed homosexuality was no sin and homosexuals were created by God to love people of the same gender. Jefferts Schori, bishop of the Diocese of Nevada, was elected on Sunday as the first woman leader of the 2.3 million-member Episcopal Church. the U.S. branch of the worldwide Anglican Communion. She will formally take office later this year. Interviewed on CNN, Jefferts Schori was asked if it was a sin to be homosexual. "I don't believe so. I believe that God creates us with different gifts. Each one of us comes into this world with a different collection of things that challenge us and things that give us joy and allow us to bless the world around us," she said. "Some people come into this world with affections ordered toward other people of the same gender and some people come into this world with affections directed at people of the other gender." Jefferts Schori's election seemed certain to exacerbate splits within a Episcopal Church that is already deeply divided over homosexuality with several dioceses and parishes threatening to break away. It could also widen divisions with other Anglican communities, including the Church of England, which do not allow women bishops. In the worldwide Anglican church women are bishops only in Canada, the United States and New Zealand. Three years ago when the Church last met in convention, a majority of U.S. bishops backed the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The Robinson issue has been particularly criticized in Africa where the church has a growing membership and where homosexuality is often taboo. Jefferts Schori, who was raised a Roman Catholic and graduated in marine biology with a doctorate specialization in squids and oysters, supported the consecration of Gene Robinson of New Hampshire, the first openly gay bishop in more than 450 years of Anglican history. The 52-year-old bishop is married to Richard Schori, a retired theoretical mathematician. They have one daughter, Katharine Johanna, 24, a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force and a pilot like her mother. Asked how she reconciled her position on homosexuality with specific passages in the Bible declaring sexual relations between men an abomination, Jefferts Schori said the Bible was written in a very different historical context by people asking different questions. "The Bible has a great deal to teach us about how to live as human beings. The Bible does not have so much to teach us about what sorts of food to eat, what sorts of clothes to wear -- there are rules in the Bible about those that we don't observe today," she said. "The Bible tells us about how to treat other human beings, and that's certainly the great message of Jesus -- to include the unincluded." http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060619/...HBhBHNlYwM5NjQ-
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