Dakota Fanning to be raped onscreen

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Well, at least the horry old idea that the increasing sexuality and violence in everything from literature to movies to video games would someday desensitize us to depictions of barbaric acts has been laid to rest....

Its actually not been increasing, just the mediums are getting more advanced in the entertainment field.. As for Barbarism, we still do not match most of the old world(Greeks,Aztec,Romans,Mongols)...

You just have to know the difference from reality and fiction...

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Its actually not been increasing, just the mediums are getting more advanced in the entertainment field.. As for Barbarism, we still do not match most of the old world(Greeks,Aztec,Romans,Mongols)...

You just have to know the difference from reality and fiction...

Oh and even with what I just wrote, I think it is sick and too far that her mom is allowing her to be shown half-naked.. That is not needed for this movie as just the thought would send shrills down the majority of peoples spine...

The movie if kept the way it is, will prolly get a nc17 and never see theaters...

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Oh and even with what I just wrote, I think it is sick and too far that her mom is allowing her to be shown half-naked.. That is not needed for this movie as just the thought would send shrills down the majority of peoples spine...

The movie if kept the way it is, will prolly get a nc17 and never see theaters...

I agree-maybe they should have her get humped by a German Sheppard-that should get her the Oscar.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I agree-maybe they should have her get humped by a German Sheppard-that should get her the Oscar.

Actually no dog would hump her, she is the most annoying kid actor I have ever saw... I have wished death upon her in every movie, especially war of the worlds, the lil bitch would cry and freak out every time...

She wants a Oscar, Have Dakota talking and then have joel osmand(what ever his name is) is shoot her and then kill himself..

Bam... Oscar..

Or maybe have Richard Simmons as the Ped..

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Actually no dog would hump her, she is the most annoying kid actor I have ever saw... I have wished death upon her in every movie, especially war of the worlds, the lil bitch would cry and freak out every time...

She wants a Oscar, Have Dakota talking and then have joel osmand(what ever his name is) is shoot her and then kill himself..

Bam... Oscar..

Or maybe have Richard Simmons as the Ped..

Tom Cruise's gay little sissy outburst on Opra was better than WOTW. That was a horrible, boring, reeruned, movie.

You forgot McCauley Caulkin-and Michael Jackson.

Maybe Dakota can do "snuff" Porn next for back to back Oscars.

[mcan]

1. Nothing is WRONG with nudity. Doesn't matter what age you are. As long as the meaning of the film is aside from TITALITING an audience, it is not porn, and age doesn't even enter the picture (from a legal standpoint). This is how SEVERAL young actresses have appeared nude in countless movies since the '60s. Recently, two very young actresses appeared nude in American Beauty. If you believe that nudity has no place in art, than you're making a moral assumption. You might be right. Maybe there is a God, and he sees nudity as TERRIBLE, but we don't know that.

2. Saying that a rape scene in a movie is wrong is just pigheaded and dumb. Yes, nearly everyone is aware that rape is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make movies about it. Everyone knows that genocide is wrong too, but we still make movies like "Schindler's List." And you know what, young kids are tortured and killed in all sorts of movies. They know it's fake when they're filming it. If any actor of any age is mature enough to make an educated decision about playing any type of role, and it's OK with that person's guardian, then YOU are the prick for telling them that they're judgement is BAD and yours is GOOD. Do I think that it's wrong to let a child who can't tell real from imaginary do something that could potentially give them psychological problems. Yes. I wouldn't put a 4 year old in a monster movie and scare the kid to death on set. But i HIGHLY doubt that Dakota has these types of issues. I'm quite sure that she is capable of distinguishing fiction from non...

3. Art isn't always squeaky clean and fun. Not every movie can be Superman, and even though I liked that movie, thank GOD there are alternatives... Some movies are disturbing and deal with matters that I pray nobody ever has to deal with, but sadly I know they do. Do some movies overstep the bounds of taste for shock value alone... Yes, I concede that they do. But disallowing people to push the boundries leaves us with a second rate Macarthyism. And what's more I can't over state the EXTREME arrogance that it takes to protest or boycott a film, book, or any piece of art based on content WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE FILM!!!!! If you see it, and think it's abbhorent, then walk out and call your senator. I'm sure you can find one that would LOVE to burn another artist at the stake.

4. Lastly, about the argument that child molestors will watch the movie and get off to it. Perhaps they will. That takes a sick mind. But it's not a valid argument for censorship. Some serial killers take their inspiration from Beatles' songs. Should they not have been allowed to write their music? Teens used to kill themselves to heavy metal. Should we not allow them to record? Gangs used to kill people for their shoes. I guess we should close the doors to Nike. Some pedophiles buy TigerBeat magazine and jack off to it while they stalk their next victim... But we don't stop the presses, do we? Why not? Because, that magazine shouldn't be held liable for someone using their product in a way in which it wasn't inteded to be used.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by mcan

1. Nothing is WRONG with nudity. Doesn't matter what age you are. As long as the meaning of the film is aside from TITALITING an audience, it is not porn, and age doesn't even enter the picture (from a legal standpoint). This is how SEVERAL young actresses have appeared nude in countless movies since the '60s. Recently, two very young actresses appeared nude in American Beauty. If you believe that nudity has no place in art, than you're making a moral assumption. You might be right. Maybe there is a God, and he sees nudity as TERRIBLE, but we don't know that.

2. Saying that a rape scene in a movie is wrong is just pigheaded and dumb. Yes, nearly everyone is aware that rape is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make movies about it. Everyone knows that genocide is wrong too, but we still make movies like "Schindler's List." And you know what, young kids are tortured and killed in all sorts of movies. They know it's fake when they're filming it. If any actor of any age is mature enough to make an educated decision about playing any type of role, and it's OK with that person's guardian, then YOU are the prick for telling them that they're judgement is BAD and yours is GOOD. Do I think that it's wrong to let a child who can't tell real from imaginary do something that could potentially give them psychological problems. Yes. I wouldn't put a 4 year old in a monster movie and scare the kid to death on set. But i HIGHLY doubt that Dakota has these types of issues. I'm quite sure that she is capable of distinguishing fiction from non...

3. Art isn't always squeaky clean and fun. Not every movie can be Superman, and even though I liked that movie, thank GOD there are alternatives... Some movies are disturbing and deal with matters that I pray nobody ever has to deal with, but sadly I know they do. Do some movies overstep the bounds of taste for shock value alone... Yes, I concede that they do. But disallowing people to push the boundries leaves us with a second rate Macarthyism. And what's more I can't over state the EXTREME arrogance that it takes to protest or boycott a film, book, or any piece of art based on content WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE FILM!!!!! If you see it, and think it's abbhorent, then walk out and call your senator. I'm sure you can find one that would LOVE to burn another artist at the stake.

4. Lastly, about the argument that child molestors will watch the movie and get off to it. Perhaps they will. That takes a sick mind. But it's not a valid argument for censorship. Some serial killers take their inspiration from Beatles' songs. Should they not have been allowed to write their music? Teens used to kill themselves to heavy metal. Should we not allow them to record? Gangs used to kill people for their shoes. I guess we should close the doors to Nike. Some pedophiles buy TigerBeat magazine and jack off to it while they stalk their next victim... But we don't stop the presses, do we? Why not? Because, that magazine shouldn't be held liable for someone using their product in a way in which it wasn't inteded to be used.

[Consistent1]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I don't know what your issue is, but he made a damn good post.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by mcan

1. Nothing is WRONG with nudity. Doesn't matter what age you are. As long as the meaning of the film is aside from TITALITING an audience, it is not porn, and age doesn't even enter the picture (from a legal standpoint). This is how SEVERAL young actresses have appeared nude in countless movies since the '60s. Recently, two very young actresses appeared nude in American Beauty. If you believe that nudity has no place in art, than you're making a moral assumption. You might be right. Maybe there is a God, and he sees nudity as TERRIBLE, but we don't know that.

2. Saying that a rape scene in a movie is wrong is just pigheaded and dumb. Yes, nearly everyone is aware that rape is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make movies about it. Everyone knows that genocide is wrong too, but we still make movies like "Schindler's List." And you know what, young kids are tortured and killed in all sorts of movies. They know it's fake when they're filming it. If any actor of any age is mature enough to make an educated decision about playing any type of role, and it's OK with that person's guardian, then YOU are the prick for telling them that they're judgement is BAD and yours is GOOD. Do I think that it's wrong to let a child who can't tell real from imaginary do something that could potentially give them psychological problems. Yes. I wouldn't put a 4 year old in a monster movie and scare the kid to death on set. But i HIGHLY doubt that Dakota has these types of issues. I'm quite sure that she is capable of distinguishing fiction from non...

3. Art isn't always squeaky clean and fun. Not every movie can be Superman, and even though I liked that movie, thank GOD there are alternatives... Some movies are disturbing and deal with matters that I pray nobody ever has to deal with, but sadly I know they do. Do some movies overstep the bounds of taste for shock value alone... Yes, I concede that they do. But disallowing people to push the boundries leaves us with a second rate Macarthyism. And what's more I can't over state the EXTREME arrogance that it takes to protest or boycott a film, book, or any piece of art based on content WHEN YOU HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE FILM!!!!! If you see it, and think it's abbhorent, then walk out and call your senator. I'm sure you can find one that would LOVE to burn another artist at the stake.

4. Lastly, about the argument that child molestors will watch the movie and get off to it. Perhaps they will. That takes a sick mind. But it's not a valid argument for censorship. Some serial killers take their inspiration from Beatles' songs. Should they not have been allowed to write their music? Teens used to kill themselves to heavy metal. Should we not allow them to record? Gangs used to kill people for their shoes. I guess we should close the doors to Nike. Some pedophiles buy TigerBeat magazine and jack off to it while they stalk their next victim... But we don't stop the presses, do we? Why not? Because, that magazine shouldn't be held liable for someone using their product in a way in which it wasn't inteded to be used.

Good post.

[stevieray]

1. Nothing is WRONG with nudity. Doesn't matter what age you are. As long as the meaning of the film is aside from TITALITING an audience, it is not porn, and age doesn't even enter the picture (from a legal standpoint). This is how SEVERAL young actresses have appeared nude in countless movies since the '60's
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really, how many were nude that were twelve?

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2. Saying that a rape scene in a movie is wrong is just pigheaded and dumb. Yes, nearly everyone is aware that rape is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make movies about it. Everyone knows that genocide is wrong too, but we still make movies like "Schindler's List." And you know what, young kids are tortured and killed in all sorts of movies.
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Rape scene invovling a twelve year old. Was Schindlers list explicit about a child being tortured or murdered?

All sorts of movies? examples, please.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by stevieray

1. Nothing is WRONG with nudity. Doesn't matter what age you are. As long as the meaning of the film is aside from TITALITING an audience, it is not porn, and age doesn't even enter the picture (from a legal standpoint). This is how SEVERAL young actresses have appeared nude in countless movies since the '60's
_________________________________________________

really, how many were nude that were twelve?

__________________________________________________

2. Saying that a rape scene in a movie is wrong is just pigheaded and dumb. Yes, nearly everyone is aware that rape is wrong, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't make movies about it. Everyone knows that genocide is wrong too, but we still make movies like "Schindler's List." And you know what, young kids are tortured and killed in all sorts of movies.
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Rape scene invovling a twelve year old. Was Schindlers list based upon a child being tortured or murdered?

All sorts of movies? examples, please.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Rape scene invovling a twelve year old. Was Schindlers list explicit about a child being tortured or murdered?

All sorts of movies? examples, please.

Movie from the 70's with Brooke Shields at 13 or so playing a child prostitute and naked would be a good example.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0078111/

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Miles

Movie from the 70's with Brooke Shields at 13 or so playing a child prostitute and naked.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0078111/

Jodie Foster in Taxi Driver as well.

This isn't new, but it's no less distasteful.

[Miles]

Originally Posted by Donger

This isn't new, but it's no less distasteful.

Agreed.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Miles

Movie from the 70's with Brooke Shields at 13 or so playing a child prostitute and naked.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0078111/

Another was Taxi Driver and Jodie Foster.

one , maybe two in cinematic history? for good reason.