Are you a FF baller or a homer?

Logical · 08-15-2006, 01:49 AM

If you say you are taking LJ count yourself as a homer.

If you say Shawn Alexander then count yourself as a baller

If you are in a league with QBs that get 6 then you have other options.

This could all change if Roaf comes back so for now assume Roaf is not coming back.

keg in kc · 08-15-2006, 02:01 AM

I think it's just as "homer" to make a point of going against your players despite all else as it is to go with them.

Homer.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I think it's just as "homer" to make a point of going against your players despite all else as it is to go with them.

Homer.

Not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting due to superstition you would not pick one of our players to keep for jinxing them?

If so I have never followed that, I had both LJ and Gonzo last year and was disappointed on missing out on TGreen.

Won the championship in one league and lost the final in the other so I think I play pretty honestly.

**007** · 08-15-2006, 02:58 AM

LJ is the number one pick in over 75% of the drafts out there. I don't think that makes you a homer just because we happen to be Chiefs fans.

keg in kc · 08-15-2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting due to superstition you would not pick one of our players to keep for jinxing them?

No, I mean a doom and gloom homer is a homer nonetheless. We're all homers here.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsguru

LJ is the number one pick in over 75% of the drafts out there. I don't think that makes you a homer just because we happen to be Chiefs fans.

Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.

**007** · 08-15-2006, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.

I do understand what you are saying but I still look at him as #1 for the mere fact that he ran all over teams during the time that Roaf was out last year. Roaf has a more direct effect on the passing game. I know that effects the running game too but his numbers earn him the respect of the pick. Roaf or not.

Doesn't matter to me anyway because I don't a pick above 3 in any of my drafts and don't expect him to be there.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsguru

I do understand what you are saying but I still look at him as #1 for the mere fact that he ran all over teams during the time that Roaf was out last year. Roaf has a more direct effect on the passing game. I know that effects the running game too but his numbers earn him the respect of the pick. Roaf or not.

Doesn't matter to me anyway because I don't a pick above 3 in any of my drafts and don't expect him to be there.

I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.

**007** · 08-15-2006, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.

Well, if your numbers are accurate, I guess I have an outside chance of seeing him in at least one of my leagues.

kc1977 · 08-15-2006, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.

Roaf retiring just solidified LJ as the #1 pick on my draft board.

1) It is not going to affect LJ directly - LJ is more of a north/south downhill type runner. Priest benefited greatly from Roaf and his ability to create a hole where Priest could get to the outside. LJ is a different runner altogether. LJ is much more dependant on the interior line. And he more than proved he is not dependant on Roaf last year in the 3 games totaling 450 yards when Roaf was out.

2) Roaf retiring will mean less blind side protection for Trent. Less blindside protection for Trent will mean a more conservative Trent. A more conservative Trent will mean more running for Larry.

Mile High Mania · 08-15-2006, 05:41 AM

If you're looking at ADP data... LJ, Alexander & Tomlinson are a dead heat at the top overall selection.

jspchief · 08-15-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

Most of those mags, if not all were published before Roaf retired.

CBSSportsline keeps an up to date "average draft position" list and Larry Johnson is still #1. He's got a respectable margin on LT and Alexander.

**Skip Towne** · 08-15-2006, 06:00 AM

LJ was a completely wasted draft pick. We should have taken Boss Bailey.

rad · 08-15-2006, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Logical

I expect to pick him up anywhere from 4 to 7 in my leagues but we have owners who really study the offensive lines as well as the performance last year. I almost guarantee that S Alexander will be 1, LT 2, Tiki 3, Steven Smith 4, Marvin Harrison or Peyton Manning 5, so I figure I can get LJ from 6 to 7 if I end up drafting that low. I would take him as high as 4 if I had the chance though.

Why would anyone take a QB in the first round?

Rounds 1 and 2 are where you want to get your RB's. Every league I've been in, you have to start 2 RB's and 1 QB. Maybe it's just because I'm in a 16 team league, but still.

Logical · 08-15-2006, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rad

Why would anyone take a QB in the first round?

Rounds 1 and 2 are where you want to get your RB's. Every league I've been in, you have to start 2 RB's and 1 QB. Maybe it's just because I'm in a 16 team league, but still.

Both my leagues are 8 team leagues, only Manning rates up there he will score as high as a top 5 runningback or a top 2 WR.

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