Edwards promises offensive changes for Chiefs - Page 4

Oz_Chief · 01-07-2007, 10:59 PM

...but Solari stays.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...s/16406684.htm

By Adam Teicher

McClatchy Newspapers

(MCT)

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - One day after a pathetic performance bounced his team from the playoffs, Herm Edwards promised offensive changes for the Chiefs in 2007.

Edwards said he couldn't be specific about many of the changes because they are still to be decided. But he indicated they would probably include a different scheme_and maybe a new starting quarterback.

They won't include a new coordinator. Edwards said Mike Solari would continue in that job no matter what type of offense the Chiefs use.

Edwards also said defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham and the rest of his assistant coaches would be welcome to return next season.

Edwards has contemplated changes through the course of a bumpy offensive season. Saturday's 23-8 loss to the Colts in a first-round playoff game in Indianapolis helped drive home the point.

The Chiefs had 126 yards and failed to get a first down until their eighth possession.

"We didn't handle their speed real well," Edwards said.

"We have to take a hard look at ourselves. You have to be realistic and ask yourself if we're really capable of (successfully running their current system). I want to make sure of one thing: Whatever type of system we run, young players have to be able to play. They can't wait a year or two to get on the field. I don't want to be in a situation where young guys who have some talent can't play because the system is too complex.

"There are some things we do very well. There are things we can do even better. That's what I'm talking about here: How do we do these things better? It's not a laundry list of things. These are just things that allow us to get the football to the right players."

Edwards said the Chiefs would keep their power running game centered on Larry Johnson and a play-action passing game. But they will simplify by cutting back on the number of plays and their complexities.

Those changes would be aimed toward making things easier for younger players. Edwards wouldn't identify those players he would like to play more next season, but he may have been talking about rookie wide receivers Jeff Webb and Chris Hannon and perhaps even rookie quarterback Brodie Croyle.

"I just know it has to be player-friendly," Edwards said. "It has to be something that young players at all positions can play. I want to give the quarterback even more ability to change some things at the line of scrimmage. I want him to have the ability to get to anything we have right now.

Edwards wouldn't address the issue of whether Trent Green would return as the starting quarterback. Green's play dropped off significantly this season after he missed eight games because of a concussion.

"That's not even something we're discussing right now," Edwards said. "There are a whole lot of other things we have to do as far as the program before we start worrying about player situations. That's second on the agenda."

But his refusal to back Green, who will turn 37 next summer, speaks loudly. The conservative Edwards believes in ball control above all. Green committed three turnovers in the final regular-season game against Jacksonville and three more in the loss to the Colts.

He had no such hesitation about supporting Solari, a career offensive-line coach until promoted to coordinator by Edwards this season.

"I told Mike today that he did a good job for his first year," Edwards said. "That's a tough seat he's sitting in. A lot of the things that happened to us - losing some players, losing the quarterback_affected him. He had never called an offensive play. That's hard. He will be so much better next year. It won't even be close.

"Mike's the guy. He's going to be a heck of an offensive coordinator. Next year will be a lot different for him. I was so much better my second year as a head coach. He'll gain more confidence. He knows me better now. Mike had to learn the passing game. You don't learn that in a year unless you're a coordinator. He was an offensive-line coach. That's something he had to go through."

Edwards also said he was pleased with how he and Cunningham worked together.

"We think a whole lot alike as far as the things we want to get done," he said. "I know people think he's blitz-crazy, but he's really not. He's got to do what the players allow him to do."

**2112** · 01-07-2007, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Yep Chiefs fans hate Herm because of Bill.

Damm Bill your Mojo is powerful.

He's a nOOb..he don't know me..I usually avoid the Herm threads..but after watching saturdays game..I can't control myself..heh..sorry..old habits die hard..heh..

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-07-2007, 11:46 PM

I bet some where in this country Herm owns a Bed n' Breakfast.

milkman · 01-07-2007, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill parcells

He's a nOOb..he don't know me..I usually avoid the Herm threads..but after watching saturdays game..I can't control myself..heh..sorry..old habits die hard..heh..

I always get a kick out of n00bs calling others n00bs.

Even the good n00bs like you Bill.

RedThat · 01-07-2007, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill parcells

The problem is Peterson...he has to be shit canned...he's drinking the Hermy Kool-aid just like Bradway did..

I agree. He did the exact same thing when Vermeil was here. Peterson is the kinda GM that'll ride the pines of the coaches.

Every coach we had from Marty, Vermeil, to Herm...Each one of those coaches had specialized on 1 side of the ball, and was lackluster on the other. Peterson of course rode the pine, and didn't support ANY of these coaches for their lack of knowledge on 1 side of the ball. As a result, were always dominating on 1 side of the ball, crap on the other.

Ever notice that with the Chiefs? They either have a good defense or a good offense. It's one or the other. That's why we always been mediocre. It's not a coincedence. It's an imcompetent GM riding the pine of the coaches. And not being able to take control of the team and properly and throughly build it the way a competent GM would.

*But I think its also the organization for being stupid enough to keep him here. Why keep a GM who consistently builds mediocre teams? It tells you something about this organization as a whole in general.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-07-2007, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bill parcells

He's a nOOb..he don't know me..I usually avoid the Herm threads..but after watching saturdays game..I can't control myself..heh..sorry..old habits die hard..heh..

Parcells should be viewed by us as the Obi Wan Kenobi of Jets fans. He's shown us the future, it's our own damned fault if we don't want to see what he's shown us.

Coach · 01-07-2007, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I always get a kick out of n00bs calling others n00bs.

Even the good n00bs like you Bill.

Hopefully you'll be changing the location "Leading the Marty Bashing" to "Leading the Herm/Carl bashing"

milkman · 01-07-2007, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull

Ever notice that with the Chiefs? They either have a good defense or a good offense. It's one or the other.

No.
You're the first one to notice.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-07-2007, 11:53 PM

We need a thorough house cleaning. New GMs, new coaches, new everything.

Why must our team always be terrible?

milkman · 01-07-2007, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Hopefully you'll be changing the location "Leading the Marty Bashing" to "Leading the Herm/Carl bashing"

I gotta change that.

How about "The HermaNation of Mediocrity"?

**2112** · 01-07-2007, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBull

I agree. He did the exact same thing when Vermeil was here. Peterson is the kinda GM that'll ride the pines of the coaches.

Every coach we had from Marty, Vermeil, to Herm...Each one of those coaches had specialized on 1 side of the ball, and was lackluster on the other. Peterson of course rode the pine, and didn't support ANY of these coaches for their lack of knowledge on 1 side of the ball. As a result, were always dominating on 1 side of the ball, crap on the other.

Ever notice that with the Chiefs? They either have a good defense or a good offense. It's one or the other. That's why we always been mediocre. It's not a coincedence. It's an imcompetent GM riding the pine of the coaches. And not being able to take control of the team and properly and throughly build it the way a competent GM would.

*But I think its also the organization for being stupid enough to keep him here. Why keep a GM who consistently builds mediocre teams? It tells you something about this organization as a whole in general.

It all starts at the top..Lamar was awesome..without him..there would be no AFC or NY Jets..but..there comes a time where you have to try and please the fans..it gets so ****ing frustrating..I went from Kotite to Parcells...and then from Parcells to Herm..thats how drastically you notice the difference in performance..HOPE was lost with me when Kotite and Herm were hired..it was regained with the hiring of Parcells and Mangini...

**2112** · 01-07-2007, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I always get a kick out of n00bs calling others n00bs.

Even the good n00bs like you Bill.

LOL..Your the man Milk!!

**RealSNR** · 01-08-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hummus' Jenkins

Parcells should be viewed by us as the Obi Wan Kenobi of Jets fans. He's shown us the future, it's our own damned fault if we don't want to see what he's shown us.

Yeah, it's no good to be miserable in a playoff melt-down. You have to be miserable the entire season in order to be a true Chiefs fan

Coach · 01-08-2007, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

I gotta change that.

How about "The HermaNation of Mediocrity"?

Nothing wrong with taking out the Coach, but I think we can fry the bigger fish.

I mean, gotta start at the top, and ultimately, that's Carl Peterson.

Sure-Oz · 01-08-2007, 12:09 AM

I'll reserve for next year. I say trent atleast comes back 1 more year and def. fights for the top spot. Cause we have nothing but Croyle left and no way he is ready for next year to be the starter.

FringeNC · 01-08-2007, 12:11 AM

Let me get this straight. We struggled because we were far too simple on offense, and the solution is to get even simpler?

01-07-2007, 10:59 PM
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