Herm Did More With Less - Page 8

**petegz28** · 10:31 AM

I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously...

No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate..

result:
9-7 record and playoff appearance.
Defense went from 31 to 16
Offense dropped from 1 - 16

Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected.

Could we have made some better decisions? Sure
Is there room for improvment? Most definitely
Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes

So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively?

Messier · 02-07-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen

AAAARRRRRGGGGH!

Peterson wants to win a championship.

Peterson is not just concerned with the bottom line/butts in seats, etc.

Peterson is an average GM who has made some very good decisions and some very bad decisions. He made great decisions in the early '90's. He made some horrible decisions in the late '90's. It's too early to say how he's done in the past five years.

Please, the media keeps spouting this mantra about Peterson because they personally and professionally have problems with him. He is at times rude and aggressive, and seems to consider the media to be a pain in his arse.

He has taken personal shots at Kietzman, Harry, and many others who routinely and vociferously complain about him and claim he only cares about the bottom line.

Any time I hear anyone on this board saying that Peterson doesn't care about what happens on the field I assume that the poster is an 810 employee or is a mindless drone of an 810 employee.

Couldn't agree more. What people seem to forget when saying all Peterson cares about is a full stadium, is the he has an ego the size of Nebraska. So of course he wants a Super Bowl, probably more than most fans. What else would feed said ego.

Fish · 02-07-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vos

Well by your logic Herm should fire himself also..Green was coming back from a head injury..

How often does a coach take his team to the playoffs in his first season and get fired at the end of the year?? That's not to say he didn't screw up a lot, but he still overcame adversity and got the team in the playoffs. To me that deserves another year to draft and improve.

As far as Shea is concerned.... shouldn't Shea have been the one to realize Green wasn't recovered and shouldn't have been starting? He was the QB coach and had more contact than anybody with Green and Huard. Wouldn't it have made sense that Shea should have been the one to tell Herm that Green wasn't ready? Maybe his lack of action was a contributing factor? That's just a guess...

Chiefnj · 02-07-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish

How often does a coach take his team to the playoffs in his first season and get fired at the end of the year?? That's not to say he didn't screw up a lot, but he still overcame adversity and got the team in the playoffs. To me that deserves another year to draft and improve.

As far as Shea is concerned.... shouldn't Shea have been the one to realize Green wasn't recovered and shouldn't have been starting? He was the QB coach and had more contact than anybody with Green and Huard. Wouldn't it have made sense that Shea should have been the one to tell Herm that Green wasn't ready? Maybe his lack of action was a contributing factor? That's just a guess...

Shea shoud have been the one to tell Herm to run some plays where the OL could actually protect his QB's for more than 2 seconds. But, that was obvious to everybody; except Herm and Solari.

**Baby Lee** · 02-07-2007, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

Shea shoud have been the one to tell Herm to run some plays where the OL could actually protect his QB's for more than 2 seconds. But, that was obvious to everybody; except Herm and Solari.

Stan to his dog - "don't be gay."
Shea to the O-Line - "don't suck."

**Baby Lee** · 02-07-2007, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Vos

Why did he keep him on to begin with?
He should have known that in January of last year,right?

Dude, he came in with everyone on earth saying "this offense is a juggernaut, don't eff it up, they're a veteran unit that knows what they're doing, concentrate on fixing the D." So he kept the O personnel in place and the personnel subsequently took a mass field trip to the AARP.
You can't simultaneously tell him to keep his mitts off the 'can't miss' O, and blame him for said O going to shit after the fact.

02-06-2007, 10:23 AM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1055873	Herm Did More With Less I know this is all reiterations but some need the reminder obviously... No Roaf, no RT, an aged Will Shields, no T-Rich, no DT's above average, no Priest Holmes\LJ combo, no Saunders, rookie OC that had head in ass syndrome, injured starting QB for 8 weeks out of the gate.. result: 9-7 record and playoff appearance. Defense went from 31 to 16 Offense dropped from 1 - 16 Given everything he had to work with I would say the drop in offense was to be expected. Could we have made some better decisions? Sure Is there room for improvment? Most definitely Did we do better than what most would expect given the situation? Yes So before you send Herm down the river I would say you have to ask yourself what might of happened with a real LT and FB offensively? Last edited by petegz28; 02-06-2007 at 10:31 AM..
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