***OFFICIAL: (1)Kansas vs (4)Southern Illinois- Sweet 16***

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[noa]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Yeah, their defense was awesome. But I hope Collins/Chalmers don't expect to play PG in the NBA, and if they do, they better find out how to handle the ball a little better.

Collins will make it to the NBA. Not so sure about Chalmers. You have to cut Collins some slack. He's a freshman and that was probably the toughest D he's faced in his entire life.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Silock

This was a bad game to judge the Jayhawks by. Every team has a bad game.

I understand.

But when people say Rush saved their ass, I think to myself, "Rush disappeared for almost the entire game..."

He made some good plays and some good baskets, but he scored a very quiet 10 or 12 points, that's for sure.

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I haven't watched very many Jayhawks games this season, I'll be honest...college basketball doesn't interest me...but I wasn't impressed by a single person on KU...Chalmers and Collins have terrible ball handling skills...the only thing that impressed me was when their big guy (don't even know his name) stepped up and nailed his two free throws.

The Jayhawks definately got pushed out of their usual game tonight. Chalmers and especially Collins are generally great ball handlers. That's actually one of Collins strong points.

SIU never allowed them to get into their comfort zone. That's to their credit. To KU's credit, they were good enough to overcome it and win anyway.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Donger

I know even less about basketball than football, but why did Self call a TO when the KU player missed his first thingy? That seemed counter-productive.

Despite what some of my KU brethren will have you believe, it was a good TO. He wanted to make sure that his team understood the situation. If Wright missed the 2nd FT (which he did), SIU would only need a 3 pointer to tie it. He was probably emphasizing staying with the long range shooters and for God's sake don't foul. At least that is what I would have been telling them.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by noa949

Collins will make it to the NBA. Not so sure about Chalmers. You have to cut Collins some slack. He's a freshman and that was probably the toughest D he's faced in his entire life.

Don't know much about the guy...

I do know that, when Deron Williams was a freshmen at the U of I...everyone thought he was terrible. He developed into one of the NBA's best PG's...

So I'm sure with hard work both Collins/Chalmers could improve tremendously...

I just can't believe that Chalmers, a supposed team leader, couldn't make his free throws at the most important time of the game. That shows a lot about a player.

[ArrowheadHawk]

i just got say Props to the Dawgs - Helluv a game

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Lzen

Despite what some of my KU brethren will have you believe, it was a good TO. He wanted to make sure that his team understood the situation. If Wright missed the 2nd FT (which he did), SIU would only need a 3 pointer to tie it. He was probably emphasizing staying with the long range shooters and for God's sake don't foul. At least that is what I would have been telling them.

Thank you.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by beer me

The Jayhawks definately got pushed out of their usual game tonight. Chalmers and especially Collins are generally great ball handlers. That's actually one of Collins strong points.

SIU never allowed them to get into their comfort zone. That's to their credit. To KU's credit, they were good enough to overcome it and win anyway.

I chalk the win up to SIU not making their open shots in the first half and never really putting the Jayhawks in any must score/must stop situations. SIU was the better team...at least in that game.

I think the majority could agree on that part.

[Silock]

It shows that he had a bad game, not that he's a bad player.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I chalk the win up to SIU not making their open shots in the first half and never really putting the Jayhawks in any must score/must stop situations. SIU was the better team...at least in that game.

I think the majority could agree on that part.

My argument against all the Saluki fans who thought their team was just as good as Kansas had been, sure, SIU could win a 1 game series... but there was a decent chance they couldn't hang for a full 40 minutes, and it's not like they are equals that could win a 7 game series.

I was wrong.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I love the people that have to make it apparent that they have me ignored...I don't give a ****...no one gives a ****. Drawing attention to yourselves doesn't hurt my feelings. I don't cry myself to sleep because I've made some ignore lists on chiefsplanet.com. I mean, not more than once or twice anyways...

I don't have you on iggy. I just think you're a douche. I usually ignore you manually, pussy!

[Dr. Johnny Fever]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I chalk the win up to SIU not making their open shots in the first half and never really putting the Jayhawks in any must score/must stop situations. SIU was the better team...at least in that game.

I think the majority could agree on that part.

SIU gave us all we could handle. Missing shots is part of every game. They may have been more tenacious on defense... but a "better team" ends up with a win. KU didn't win by accident. They won because they did what they had to when they had to and were deep enough to stay fairly fresh against the SIU defense.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I chalk the win up to SIU not making their open shots in the first half and never really putting the Jayhawks in any must score/must stop situations. SIU was the better team...at least in that game.

I think the majority could agree on that part.

SIU blows. KU was ****ing giving the game away and SIU couldn't put it away. They do a lot of pushing and their opposition gets called. Whatever.

It honestly looked like some of the KU players were turning the ball over on purpose, maybe they were trying to cover the Vegas line, I don't ****ing know, it just didn't look natural. This probably was the worst performance I've ever seen from KU. Horrible outing, I just thank god we won.

I can't believe you guys watched that game. I've been watching My Name is Earl.

[milton]

Originally Posted by beer me

SIU gave us all we could handle. Missing shots is part of every game. They may have been more tenacious on defense... but a "better team" ends up with a win. KU didn't win by accident. They won because they did what they had to when they had to and were deep enough to stay fairly fresh against the SIU defense.

Plus the ref giving KU the dunk that should not of counted due to the time and the goaltending that wasn't called on the foul...so yea KU was better with the refs helping.