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Old 08-19-2007, 09:20 AM  
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Croyle throws off of his back foot on occasion.

I have heard/read several people bashing on Croyle for throwing off of his back foot. I just got done watching SPORTSCENTER run highlights of some of last nights pre-season games. And guess what? Favre threw at TD pass off his back foot. So did Garcia. And Hasselback threw a pass off his backfoot as well. Looks like Croyle is in some good company IMO.
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:19 AM   #16
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Funny. That sport they call baseball. They have a player called a pitcher. Those pitchers throw off which foot, to get their power?
Nearly everyone knows the answer to that. Point is, a QB is not a pitcher in baseball. Not everytime is he going to get to set his feet where he wants to throw... like a pitcher does. Sometimes you have to throw off of your back foot, 'cause the receiver may be only open for a bit and the QB doesn't have time to adjust to that bit. And if the QB did reset his feet and that ball gets intercepted, the QB would be ripped for telegraphing his passes.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:23 AM   #17
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Nearly everyone knows the answer to that. Point is, a QB is not a pitcher in baseball. Not everytime is he going to get to set his feet where he wants to throw... like a pitcher does. Sometimes you have to throw off of your back foot, 'cause the receiver may be only open for a bit and the QB doesn't have time to adjust to that bit. And if the QB did reset his feet and that ball gets intercepted, the QB would be ripped for telegraphing his passes.
The fact is, whether it's a pitch, or throwing a pass, they both actually throw off their back foot.

It's the follow through mechanics, or lack thereof, that people are actually bitching about.

A pitcher never has people coming at him when he pitches.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:27 AM   #18
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His mechanics aren't holding him back at this point. He's completing everything when he plays smart.

Throwing off the back foot concerned me in training camp, but on Croyle's better drives it's clearly not an issue. He's physically fine.

It's mental errors he's got to work on, and I believe he can.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:31 AM   #19
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:34 AM   #20
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i don't think croyle is ready to start. Another year of watching would help him more than playing
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:36 AM   #21
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Actually, the receivers made some spectacular catches on some poorly thrown balls by Huard last season.

I never knew they had it in them.

.... I saw a lion's share of dropped passes last year though... most notably in the playoff game... not good for the blood pressure lol...
Croyle delivers a good ball. We'll see.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:37 AM   #22
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i don't think croyle is ready to start. Another year of watching would help him more than playing
could certainly be true


the problem is that you just don't know until you try and are we really gonna want to try during a 'winning' season.

the time is now



imo the only real question is to start Croyle game 1 or wait until around mid-season
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:40 AM   #23
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.... I saw a lion's share of dropped passes last year though... most notably in the playoff game... not good for the blood pressure lol...
Croyle delivers a good ball. We'll see.
I said they saved Huard's ass.

When Green returned, they reverted to their same old pass dropping ways.

It seemed they stepped up their concentration for Huard.
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Old 08-19-2007, 11:41 AM   #24
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A pitcher never has people coming at him when he pitches.
Not the way I used to pitch.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:14 PM   #25
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I've noticed his tendency to throw while back pedaling (it's more than just off his back foot, he actually has backwards momentum). It looks wrong, but his accuracy and zip is pretty good regardless of the funky mechanics. Like others, I'm more concerned about him learning when and where to throw it.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:15 PM   #26
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The problem wasn't that he threw off his back foot, the problem was he didn't correctly read the defense. Young QBs do that. It's no big deal to me -- but Herm believes in zero risk-taking on offense, so who knows what he thinks about it.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:20 PM   #27
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The problem wasn't that he threw off his back foot, the problem was he didn't correctly read the defense. Young QBs do that. It's no big deal to me -- but Herm believes in zero risk-taking on offense, so who knows what he thinks about it.
actually if he had stepped into the throw it might of gone to the back corner of the endzone where only griffin could catch it.


they had 1 on 1 coverage ..... the problem was that it's was under thrown.


read wasn't that bad, the throw was

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Old 08-19-2007, 12:35 PM   #28
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actually if he had stepped into the throw it might of gone to the back corner of the endzone where only griffin could catch it.


they has 1 on 1 coverage ..... the problem was that it's was under thrown.


read wasn't that bad, the throw was
Yeah, Wilson was behind the DB. If that pass is thrown at the back corner of the endzone, nobody has a chance at catching it other then Wilson.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:37 PM   #29
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actually if he had stepped into the throw it might of gone to the back corner of the endzone where only griffin could catch it.


they has 1 on 1 coverage ..... the problem was that it's was under thrown.


read wasn't that bad, the throw was
I disagree. I don't think the pass could have been completed. Croyle thought the receiver had one-on-one coverage, and he didn't.
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Old 08-19-2007, 12:47 PM   #30
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back-foot, front-foot, left foot, right foot... who cares. The botton line is Croyle is barely an NFL Europe caliber QB (at best).

Meanwhile David Carr and Brady Quinn both were impressive this weekend. Just an FYI
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