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Old 09-26-2007, 07:44 PM  
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Religion as a topic.....

do you enjoy religion as a topic in threads.

The reason I ask is one of the other long time poster has a canipition fit when religious topics are posted and I find that strange. Whether the topic is Buddhism, Muslim, Jewish, or Christian in tradition or even about atheism I enjoy the hell out of those threads. So I thought I would find out what others think.

No poll forthcoming.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:41 PM   #61
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Yes, manipulate my post just as you attempt to manipulate everything else. You repeatedly ignore my answers and ask the same questions over and over. If you were a fucking idiot, I'd understand. But you're not. You're just being deliberately obtuse, milking yet another response out of me and prolonging your attention whoring. In the end, that's all it is, isn't it? - this is how you get attention, posting contentious crap and then watching people verbally assail one another, which is exactly what you want, so you feel empowered by it. Then you feign innocence and say "well, I never meant to upset anybody." That's bullshit, a lie, whatever you want to call it. You knew exactly the reaction you'd get with SUCK IT JESUS. Did you perhaps realize that you went too far? What difference does it make? It doesn't excuse what you did or why you did it.

And no, I'm NOT religious, as you well know. I'm simply sick of all the strife. SUCK IT JESUS simply doesn't belong on the main forum. Would you walk down the street saying "SUCK IT JESUS" to strangers? Of course you wouldn't - I've met you, Jim, and I know that you ACT OUT HERE BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE YOU'RE AS TIMID AS A fuckING CHURCHMOUSE. And that, Jim, is the difference between us - I don't have a persona here; I'm just myself.
LOL that you think I am timid, ask my son, endo, or Big Daddy, if I can be described as timid. I am somewhat shy until I get to know people, but I am far from timid. Too bad you cannot meet all the people who work for and with me so you can ask them if they view me as timid.

I won't reveal who contacted me in regards to the suck it thrread unless they say I can, but I will reveal that my son did, and even if no one else had, that would have been enough to convince me I had went too far and asked for it to be locked. Sure I was trying to stir the pot, hey I admitted that already in the replacement for the thread post. Big deal, you need to get over it. You used to be a shit stirrer yourself once upon a time, fortunately for you the evidence is lost to the great database purge.

I still like and respect you and your anger and belligerant statements do nothing to change that.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:43 PM   #62
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Yes, manipulate my post just as you attempt to manipulate everything else. You repeatedly ignore my answers and ask the same questions over and over. If you were a fucking idiot, I'd understand. But you're not. You're just being deliberately obtuse, milking yet another response out of me and prolonging your attention whoring. In the end, that's all it is, isn't it? - this is how you get attention, posting contentious crap and then watching people verbally assail one another, which is exactly what you want, so you feel empowered by it. Then you feign innocence and say "well, I never meant to upset anybody." That's bullshit, a lie, whatever you want to call it. You knew exactly the reaction you'd get with SUCK IT JESUS. Did you perhaps realize that you went too far? What difference does it make? It doesn't excuse what you did or why you did it.

And no, I'm NOT religious, as you well know. I'm simply sick of all the strife. SUCK IT JESUS simply doesn't belong on the main forum. Would you walk down the street saying "SUCK IT JESUS" to strangers? Of course you wouldn't - I've met you, Jim, and I know that you ACT OUT HERE BECAUSE IN REAL LIFE YOU'RE AS TIMID AS A fuckING CHURCHMOUSE. And that, Jim, is the difference between us - I don't have a persona here; I'm just myself.
If we as Americans cannot accept that others have heartfelt convictions about eternal matters, we are more unjust than all men.

Wise men respect the consciences of their fellow men; attacking another's religion only provokes strife and intolerance.

Cyber behavior is, as Tim aptly points out, often a substitute for personal timidity.

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Old 09-26-2007, 10:46 PM   #63
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"Suck it," Jimbo....


Seriously, though....religious topics can be fun, enlightening, and entertaining. Unfortunately, here at the Planet....there are some of us who enjoy stirring shit and being provocative.

However, stirring shit and being provocative....inexorably leads to insulting behavior and rhetoric, even unintentionally, and denigration of the heartfelt beliefs and opinions of rational and reasonable people--even if you disagree.

Therefore, religious threads....at a minimum, ought to be confined to D.C. IMHO. The aggrevation and pissin' contests and mental masturbation and self delusion that they necessarily require....don't belong in the Lounge, IMHO.

Noobs and the "normal" people here don't need to wade through that shit, without a condom IMHO.

What is funny is football/sports may be the common reason we are all at this site, but most of us came here so we could discuss anything in the main forum that came to our minds. A lot of the newer people don't know that, but Frazod (Tim) certainly should. Yes DC was created to segregate the politics and DEnise (wink) from the Lounge, but DC was not intended to be the common residence for all things not football.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:46 PM   #64
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LOL that you think I am timid, ask my son, endo, or Big Daddy, if I can be described as timid. I am somewhat shy until I get to know people, but I am far from timid. Too bad you cannot meet all the people who work for and with me so you can ask them if they view me as timid.

I won't reveal who contacted me in regards to the suck it thrread unless they say I can, but I will reveal that my son did, and even if no one else had, that would have been enough to convince me I had went too far and asked for it to be locked. Sure I was trying to stir the pot, hey I admitted that already in the replacement for the thread post. Big deal, you need to get over it. You used to be a shit stirrer yourself once upon a time, fortunately for you the evidence is lost to the great database purge.

I still like and respect you and your anger and belligerant statements do nothing to change that.
You are not timid.

You are the poster-child for passive-aggressive shit-stirring provocateur.

Tim is right on target; if anyone would know, it's me. And you know it.



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What is funny is football/sports may be the common reason we are all at this site, but most of us came here so we could discuss anything in the main forum that came to our minds. A lot of the newer people don't know that, but Frazod (Tim) certainly should. Yes DC was created to segregate the politics and DEnise (wink) from the Lounge, but DC was not intended to be the common residence for all things not football.
Religion is not football.

However, it is much, much more like politics and Duhnise....than football.

That is why many, if not most "religious" topics belong in D.C.....IMHO.

At least passive-aggresive shit-stirring "religious" topics.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:47 PM   #65
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If we as Americans cannot accept that others have heartfelt convictions about eternal matters, we are more unjust than all men.

Wise men respect the consciences of their fellow men; attacking another's religion only provokes strife and intolerance.

Cyber behavior is, as Tim aptly points out, often a substitute for personal timidity.

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John we have spoken over the phone and I sought you out, not the other way around, was that me being timid?
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:48 PM   #66
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You are not timid.

You are the poster-child for passive-aggressive shit-stirring provocateur.

Tim is right on target; if anyone would know, it's me. And you know it.

When have I ever tried to say I was not a shit stirrer? Seriously Rob, can you think of a time that I did not admit I enjoy it?
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:52 PM   #67
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I'm curious why the planet has never had a poll to move all religion discussions to the DC (and rename it something like "Politics & Religion".

Seems like a no brainer, but after 7 years, it's never happened. I'm suprised. Particularly given how pissed some people get when the religion threads exist in the lounge.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:55 PM   #68
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LOL that you think I am timid, ask my son, endo, or Big Daddy, if I can be described as timid. I am somewhat shy until I get to know people, but I am far from timid. Too bad you cannot meet all the people who work for and with me so you can ask them if they view me as timid.

I won't reveal who contacted me in regards to the suck it thrread unless they say I can, but I will reveal that my son did, and even if no one else had, that would have been enough to convince me I had went too far and asked for it to be locked. Sure I was trying to stir the pot, hey I admitted that already in the replacement for the thread post. Big deal, you need to get over it. You used to be a shit stirrer yourself once upon a time, fortunately for you the evidence is lost to the great database purge.

I still like and respect you and your anger and belligerant statements do nothing to change that.
Yeah, you're a real Dirty Harry, aren't you? That's why you speak so softly you can barely be heard and rarely look people in the eye. I'm sure you're different in your comfort zone, tormenting your kids or employees. But when you're among those beyond your personal control, you're basically a turtle looking for a shell.

And no, I'm not a shit stirrer. Never have been. Do I react passionately to things? Do I dig in on issues and get nasty? Sometimes too nasty? Absolutely. But I never engage in such antics unless I have (or believe I have) a good reason for doing so. And I have NEVER posted contentious crap like you do just to offend the core of the community for my own personal amusement.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:56 PM   #69
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I'm curious why the planet has never had a poll to move all religion discussions to the DC (and rename it something like "Politics & Religion".

Seems like a no brainer, but after 7 years, it's never happened. I'm suprised. Particularly given how pissed some people get when the religion threads exist in the lounge.
Go forth, and make the poll.

I'd be shocked to see it not happen....

Then you could claim at least some value to this place....


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Old 09-26-2007, 10:59 PM   #70
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I wish somebody would post the poll, but it shouldn't be me. I'm too invested in this issue.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:11 PM   #71
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:21 PM   #72
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I've pretty much given up on trying to discuss religion on the planet. Very few worthwhile discussions.
Several of your comments have been meaningful to me whether I responded or not. I'd like it if you continue to share.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:25 PM   #73
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Yeah, you're a real Dirty Harry, aren't you? That's why you speak so softly you can barely be heard and rarely look people in the eye. I'm sure you're different in your comfort zone, tormenting your kids or employees. But when you're among those beyond your personal control, you're basically a turtle looking for a shell.

And no, I'm not a shit stirrer. Never have been. Do I react passionately to things? Do I dig in on issues and get nasty? Sometimes too nasty? Absolutely. But I never engage in such antics unless I have (or believe I have) a good reason for doing so. And I have NEVER posted contentious crap like you do just to offend the core of the community for my own personal amusement.
Yup you never shit stir

http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=8268
http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=13797
http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=13933
http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=13982

I am sure you were not meaning to stir the shit with the next few for sure
http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=14108
http://67.18.68.69/BB/showthread.php?t=13933

Here you are trying to be the first to segregate the board eventually you will get your way.

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Old 09-26-2007, 11:33 PM   #74
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Yeah, you're a real Dirty Harry, aren't you? That's why you speak so softly you can barely be heard and rarely look people in the eye. I'm sure you're different in your comfort zone, tormenting your kids or employees. But when you're among those beyond your personal control, you're basically a turtle looking for a shell.

And no, I'm not a shit stirrer. Never have been. Do I react passionately to things? Do I dig in on issues and get nasty? Sometimes too nasty? Absolutely. But I never engage in such antics unless I have (or believe I have) a good reason for doing so. And I have NEVER posted contentious crap like you do just to offend the core of the community for my own personal amusement.
Tim, I can see the rage subsiding, better shoot a refrigerator to get yourself stoked backup, or maybe you can kill the guys cutting your cable or DTV connections. I imagine there is some poor customer service peon at DTV that you can vent at since you are not getting through to me.

I guess I have the money to afford to speak softly when I am in public and don't need the alcohol reinforced timerity that you evidently are so proud of in you dealings in real life with fellow Planet posters. I say good for you Cliff Claven of ChiefsPlanet, yell on, we all love hearing your stories.
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