WHAT THE fuck IS GOING ON WITH THE SERVER???? - Page 8

Frazod · 11-04-2007, 06:51 PM

Seriously, could somebody do something?

kcfan82 · 11-05-2007, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

I am pretty sure they started using a SALT now so you would have to run their upgrade scripts to convert the users to the latest build then import them into the clean install of the forums.

Or just run the upgrade scripts and keep all the worthless poop threads around.

Right, I say just upgrade this site here on this server and then move it..

Seems pretty seamless.

**DaFace** · 11-05-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfan82

Right, I say just upgrade this site here on this server and then move it..

Seems pretty seamless.

The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that there's not enough space on the server to do any kind of an upgrade. It's pretty much maxed out.

**BigRedChief** · 11-05-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Okay, just talked to Kyle. He is saying that we could have the new hardware on the 16th, after that I will work to make sure we get all the software we need to get going as fast as possible.

I did say that we may just bring over the current data as an archive database, to give us a clean database to start with. I'll try to think how to do the users, whether to import them or start fresh.

I believe Pats Planet will be a part of this move as well, I'll work with Undertaker on that one. I might try unifying the two a little closer together, but eh, who knows.

morphius
cross your fingers.

Remember you have some highly paid DBA's to run ideas across. You don't have to do all the work.

Maybe we should re-open the tech committe forum?

**morphius** · 11-06-2007, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Undertaker #59

You know how to reach me, and feel free to email. If it is at all possible with us, we would like to keep our history. I've spent a lot of time and energy helping to make Patriots Planet what it is, so I am willing to help however I can with any issues.

My goal with both is to keep the old data, but maybe in archive read only format. Hopefully that will clear up a lot of the issue we are all having.

I'm going to try using the impex tool to do the user transfer, God willing that will work. I haven't done a lot of reading on it yet, but I have a week to get caught up on it.

**penguinz** · 11-06-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

My goal with both is to keep the old data, but maybe in archive read only format. Hopefully that will clear up a lot of the issue we are all having.

I'm going to try using the impex tool to do the user transfer, God willing that will work. I haven't done a lot of reading on it yet, but I have a week to get caught up on it.

I have used IMPEX to migrate from another forum into vBulletin and it is a decent tool.

Also... I am not sure how vBulletin is configured here but make sure that the attachments are stored via files ystem and not in the SQL. It will help with the performance very significantly.

StcChief · 11-06-2007, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

The issue, if I understand it correctly, is that there's not enough space on the server to do any kind of an upgrade. It's pretty much maxed out.

Didn't we figure that with tech. committee new Hardware and fresh DB instance would be needed for any upgrade of VBull/ MySql....

old hardware could be used for playground/sandbox testing.

**morphius** · 11-06-2007, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz

I have used IMPEX to migrate from another forum into vBulletin and it is a decent tool.

Also... I am not sure how vBulletin is configured here but make sure that the attachments are stored via files ystem and not in the SQL. It will help with the performance very significantly.

Ours is that way, Patriots is not, but it will be after the migration.

Seriously, if anyone has any suggestions, don't be afraid to make them. I may be stubborn, but I'm not a complete moron (emphases on complete).

Stc - I may hit you up with some DBA stuff if I run into ANY issues.

kcfan82 · 11-06-2007, 08:38 AM

I'm not sure how you guys are setup and if you're using IIS, Apache, etc.

Last time I moved one of these it was as simple as installing the c:\PHP folder and setting up the PHP environment and MYSQL on the new server. Backing up the Mysql DB and the website folder in wwwroot. Moving them both to the new server, moving the websiste to the new server. Then you put the database in place, and I think you change the server name in the config.php file and you're off and going.

I'd have to dig up my notes

**morphius** · 11-06-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfan82

I'm not sure how you guys are setup and if you're using IIS, Apache, etc.

Last time I moved one of these it was as simple as installing the c:\PHP folder and setting up the PHP environment and MYSQL on the new server. Backing up the Mysql DB and the website folder in wwwroot. Moving them both to the new server, moving the websiste to the new server. Then you put the database in place, and I think you change the server name in the config.php file and you're off and going.

I'd have to dig up my notes

Well, we are also doing a software upgrade with this, so it is going to take a bit more work then just a server migration. Running for years on a beta version of 3.0 is a huge issue, IMO. Not to mention those poor pats guys, their software is almost as old as Skip.

I also plan to bring Simplex in on the testing as soon as I get it ready so that he can't verify his cppiggy.

kcfan82 · 11-06-2007, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Well, we are also doing a software upgrade with this, so it is going to take a bit more work then just a server migration. Running for years on a beta version of 3.0 is a huge issue, IMO. Not to mention those poor pats guys, their software is almost as old as Skip.

Wow, you guys are a few versions behind. If you guys do upgrade your hardware, you guys should look into a content manager for your homepage. There are lots of free ones out there that run on PHP.

A content manager gives you a place to post articles, you can add scoreboards, video and audio players. Basically a pre compiled website ready to go.

For one of my boards we use dotnetnuke, I know another good one is joomla.

dotnetnuke looks like this www.talkhuskers.com

kcfan82 · 11-06-2007, 08:54 AM

Here is what joomla looks like, both are free I believe.

http://www.fvsports.com/

**morphius** · 11-06-2007, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfan82

Wow, you guys are a few versions behind. If you guys do upgrade your hardware, you guys should look into a content manager for your homepage. There are lots of free ones out there that run on PHP.

A content manager gives you a place to post articles, you can add scoreboards, video and audio players. Basically a pre compiled website ready to go.

For one of my boards we use dotnetnuke, I know another good one is joomla.

dotnetnuke looks like this www.talkhuskers.com

That is something we were working towards with the Tech Committee. I plan to work on that as well, it is just a bit further out as I haven't done it before and need a little play time till I can come up with something that I will be happy with.

kcfan82 · 11-06-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

That is something we were working towards with the Tech Committee. I plan to work on that as well, it is just a bit further out as I haven't done it before and need a little play time till I can come up with something that I will be happy with.

Sounds good man, if you guys opt to go the dotnetnuke www.dotnetnuke.com let me know. I have a bunch of add ons for it I collected including a youtube type video player which you can play on the homepage. As well as a scoreboard, and some other sports related stuff.

Later

**morphius** · 11-06-2007, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfan82

Sounds good man, if you guys opt to go the dotnetnuke www.dotnetnuke.com let me know. I have a bunch of add ons for it I collected including a youtube type video player which you can play on the homepage. As well as a scoreboard, and some other sports related stuff.

Later

excellent, thanks!

11-06-2007, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by morphius

Okay, just talked to Kyle. He is saying that we could have the new hardware on the 16th,

The 16th of what month and year?

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kcfan82 Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not sure how you guys are setup and if you're using IIS, Apache, etc. Last time I moved one of these it was as simple as installing the c:\PHP folder and setting up the PHP environment and MYSQL on the new server. Backing up the Mysql DB and the website folder in wwwroot. Moving them both to the new server, moving the websiste to the new server. Then you put the database in place, and I think you change the server name in the config.php file and you're off and going. I'd have to dig up my notes
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