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View Poll Results: In what manner would you like to see Herm Edwards fired? (Multiple choice)
Push him out of the plane over Illinois. 22 26.83%
Take his airline ticket and make him hitchhike...in a skirt. 15 18.29%
As opposed to merely firing him, set the idiot on fire. 15 18.29%
Tie him to Paul Hackett and force them to beat each other to death. 17 20.73%
Nukes, special forces, anything. How it happens doesn't matter. 19 23.17%
Be professional and just fire him in his office. With a big stick with a nail in it. 14 17.07%
It cannot stop at Herman Edwards. We have to exterminate the whole front office roachbed. 38 46.34%
Actually, I'm thrilled with Herman Edwards' "it's a win if you're within seven points" philosophy. 11 13.41%
Trade him to the Raiders by telling Al Davis that he throws the ball downfield. 18 21.95%
Hold a big team meeting and fire him in front of everybody, and make him walk out dragging the Boulder of Shame. 26 31.71%
I have some other plan for firing him, described in my post. 5 6.10%
I haven't yet decided if his "play to lose close" philosophy is a problem, and I can't feed myself. 12 14.63%
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Old 11-18-2007, 07:33 PM  
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That's it. I'm freaking done with these idiots.

Back in the 1970s, our teams were bad. They lost games. They got soundly beaten by opponents. But you know what? I could live with it. The teams back then at least tried to win.

Now? I love this team. Love it. We've got massive talent on defense. We've got top-notch players on offense. We've got a new quarterback who can win, and we've got a potential superstar at wide receiver and legitimate superstarts at tight end and running back.

And we've got a coach who is biggest freaking idiot this side of Paul Hackett.

The last time I was this mad about a loss was against Indianapolis in 1995, when we lost home field in the playoffs because of the worst game plan, or rather lack of a game plan, in football history. And now we're repeating it on a weekly basis.

It's the fourth quarter. The score is tied. The best quarterback in the game is on the other sideline. And we freaking concede a drive? We don't even TRY to get a first down? We punt the ball to the most productive offense of the decade? Both teams had one opportunity to win the game, and our stupid, idiotic, moronic, imbecilic coaching staff VOLUNTARILY GAVE OUR CHANCE AWAY! THEY SAID, "WE DON'T WANT TO TRY TO SCORE, SO LET'S PLAY FOR A TIE AND PUNT IT PEYTON FREAKING MANNING." What sort of intellectual plant life would you have to be to do that? They voluntarily reduced our chances of winning to zero, and for no reason.

AAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! I'm so mad about this that I can't stand it. They do this every freaking week. We have perhaps ten chances to score in a game, and they VOLUNTARILY give up on half of them! How does someone do this and keep their job? If I owned that team, that freaking coach-in-name-only would not get on the plane to come home. He would pay his own way back, and I would mail his office stuff to him in a box. I'd give the Arrowhead guards pepper spray and a picture of his unibrowed visage of confusion.

I can't do this any more. Just can't. This was the last straw. This was stupidity at it's finest. This was building the freaking Egyptian pyramids of stupidity. This was stupidity that will stand as a shining example of the art for the next four thousand years. Stupid scholars will study this game plan and write dissertations about it. It was miss-the-$100-question-on-Who- Wants-To-Be-A-Millionaire-after- using-all-of-your-lifelines stupid.

This is a good team. This is a strong team. This team could be very, very good if they were allowed to be. And you know what? Just trade them all. Trade them and stock up draft picks for a possible time when the stupid ownership of this team finally sells it to someone who will fire the stupid Haile Selassie president-for-life general manager and hire someone who will in turn fire the stupid "I think we get points for close losses" coaching staff, and then when those things happen maybe we can use those picks to field a competitive team. Until Herman Edwards is gone, and all photographs of his slackjawed RCA-Victor-Dog-Looking-At-Victrola face have been burned, just pile up picks and use semi-pro players, because the end result will be the same.

If I was Tony Gonzalez or Derrick Johnson or Jared Allen, I would go to Clark Hunt's office with a sleeping bag and I would not leave there until there's a regime change. Don't waste your career playing for piece of garbage idiot like Herm Edwards who can't even fathom trying to win a game.

Three drives! At least three drives where we just intentionally folded up. Didn't even try! "Eh, who cares? Just run for a few yards and punt it. Who cares?" Did these people never watch Joe Montana in the Super Bowl against Cincinnati? Do they not understand that the team with the most points wins? Where is the understanding here, people! Where?!?!?!?!

I HATE YOU, HERMAN EDWARDS! HATE! HATE, HATE, HATE! No, no. It's more than hate! Far more than hate. It's outright despisal!

YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME! YOU PLAY...TO WIN...THE GAME!

I don't know if I can communicate this any more clearly. This coach has to be removed from power, using any means possible. I'm 44 years old. I don't want to have to concede five more seasons of giving away wins while I wait. He has to go now! NOW! NOW!!!!
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:44 PM   #61
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You could start by recognizing the fact and stop trying to run it up the middle on first down EVERY TIME.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:45 PM   #62
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I mean it!!!!

I'm really done with these idiots!

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Old 11-18-2007, 08:46 PM   #63
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You could start by recognizing the fact and stop trying to run it up the middle on first down EVERY TIME.
But if we throw it we expose the horrible pass blocking. And the results of bad blocking on passes are much worse! Remember the 3rd quarter of the Broncos game. There's a risk/reward calculation here.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:46 PM   #64
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:47 PM   #65
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That game plan was indeed bad, but we lost that game because of a kicker whos name shall not be mentioned.
Certainly that was an issue, but I actually blame Paul Hackett more. Paul Hackett is, in my opinion, the biggest villain in Chiefs history. Herman Edwards is a two-bit despot destroying a backwater jungle country. Paul Hackett brought down the British Empire.

However, I still have a patriotic need to free my backwater jungle country.
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Once in a while. All I ask is that once in a while we try to keep a drive going if first down isn't successful. We have teams putting 8 or 9 in the box on 2nd and long and 3rd and long now. Just one time in four or five if we don't care about winning, just one time in four or five, let's try a pass in a passing situation. There's a reason that they're called passing situations. They aren't supposed to be called prep-for-punting situations. They're passing situations. Let's give it a whirl and see what happens.
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3 things can happen when you throw the ball 2 of them bad. run the ball punt and play Defense. If you can't stop the other team you don't really have any business winning anyway.
That quote always puzzled me. there's actually four things and the 4th is good.



That makes it 50/50...
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But if we throw it we expose the horrible pass blocking. And the results of bad blocking on passes are much worst! Remember the 3rd quarter of the Broncos game. There's a risk/reward calculation here.
So instead we almost always run it on 1st and 2nd downs which leads to almost always throwing it on 3rd down. Which leads to the D teeing up on us on 3rd down passing situations which makes our pass blocking all that much worse. Yep, makes sense to me.
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My issue is not so much with the run/pass balance as it is with the fact that we play our entire offensive game within about 6 yards of the line of scrimmage. We do nothing to push the defense back, so it doesn't matter if we're running or passing. They just plant themselves three yards off the line and play both.
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:50 PM   #72
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That quote always puzzled me. there's actually four things and the 4th is good.



That makes it 50/50...

It's not even close to 50/50. especially you have a rookie quarterback who is dum and it is a hostle envirement. Kick it away place defense. man people are dense
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Old 11-18-2007, 08:51 PM   #73
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3 things can happen when you throw the ball 2 of them bad. run the ball punt and play Defense. If you can't stop the other team you don't really have any business winning anyway.
and if you can't move the damn ball you don't deserve to win either. A RB can fumble the ball just as easily as a QB can get picked off. You move the chains by gaining a lot on first down. We can't run the ball worth a shit. We all know this but we try to do it anyway. Then we run it on every first down and it just gets more and more predictable making the running game that much worse as teams just stack the box with a shitload of people. Throw the ball around. Look what NE does. They don't run the ball all that much, they score ****ing points and they play defense. YOU CAN DO BOTH, YOU KNOW....IT IS INDEED POSSIBLE.
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So instead we almost always run it on 1st and 2nd downs which leads to almost always throwing it on 3rd down. Which leads to the D teeing up on us on 3rd down passing situations which makes our pass blocking all that much worse. Yep, makes sense to me.

Thus....the dreaded draw!

There's really no good options when you're getting your ass beat physically.

But we still were close to being only the 3rd team to win a meaningful game in that place in the last 3 years, and the other two were Super Bowl Champs and they won close.
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