Where does eveyone stand on smoking bans?

[FAX]

I don't understand the "rights" argument very well, Mr. RedNeckRaider.

I mean, you still have the "right" to smoke your tail off at home, correct? How is it a "right" to gas your poor neighbors? You have the "right" to stick a croquet mallet up your ass, paint your pecker purple, and walk around naked in your own house, but society has the "right" to curtail that sort of activity in public, do they not?

FAX

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by FAX

I don't understand the "rights" argument very well, Mr. RedNeckRaider.

I mean, you still have the "right" to smoke your tail off at home, correct? How is it a "right" to gas your poor neighbors? You have the "right" to stick a croquet mallet up your ass, paint your pecker purple, and walk around naked in your own house, but society has the "right" to curtail that sort of activity in public, do they not?

FAX

This is where I see the difference. Smokers can't keep it to themselves. It's physically impossible.

If I really liked a certain kind of drink, but part of drinking it meant I was spitting it out all over the people at the tables around me how long do you think it would last before a smoker told me to cut it out?

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

This is where I see the difference. Smokers can't keep it to themselves. It's physically impossible.

If I really liked a certain kind of drink, but part of drinking it meant I was spitting it out all over the people at the tables around me how long do you think it would last before a smoker told me to cut it out?

So I can same the same for noise pollution when somebody is talking loud or you do not know how to control your brat in public??? If we are banning smoking, then there should be fines for noise pollution when out in public...

[MTG#10]

Originally Posted by Valiant

So I can same the same for noise pollution when somebody is talking loud or you do not know how to control your brat in public??? If we are banning smoking, then there should be fines for noise pollution when out in public...

People talking loud isnt harmful to your health. Thats the difference.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

People talking loud isnt harmful to your health. Thats the difference.

There's some debate on whether or not second hand smoke in the kinds of quantities the average person encounters is harmful.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by MTG#10

People talking loud isnt harmful to your health. Thats the difference.

If you are around it enough it is..

That and second hand smoke is still being argued as harmful or not..
Those facts they throw out are the same kind of facts that say mt. dew will make you sterile but then not tell you, you have to drink some odd gallons a day for a few years to do it..

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Valiant

So I can same the same for noise pollution when somebody is talking loud or you do not know how to control your brat in public??? If we are banning smoking, then there should be fines for noise pollution when out in public...

Totally agree. And parents who bring their infant children into a movie theater should be shot.

FAX

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Valiant

So I can same the same for noise pollution when somebody is talking loud or you do not know how to control your brat in public??? If we are banning smoking, then there should be fines for noise pollution when out in public...

The one and only time one of my kids was making noise above a talking level and didn't respond to the first two times we told her to be quite we left.

People are generally inconsiderate. I'm not sure how you solve that. You have to include smokers in that don't you?

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

The one and only time one of my kids was making noise above a talking level and didn't respond to the first two times we told her to be quite we left.

People are generally inconsiderate. I'm not sure how you solve that. You have to include smokers in that don't you?

Wasn't singling out anybody in particular here, but you do the same thing..

You pass a crazy stupid law, that requires others to rat you out.. If your kid is crying or you are talking too loud the ones around you can tell those who own the business to make you leave or call the cops.. Just think another money making scheme for the police to control...

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Valiant

Wasn't singling out anybody in particular here, but you do the same thing..

You pass a crazy stupid law, that requires others to rat you out.. If your kid is crying or you are talking too loud the ones around you can tell those who own the business to make you leave or call the cops.. Just think another money making scheme for the police to control...

I didn't mean to insinuate that you did mean me, I was just pointing out that it can be handled sans new law.

Very few laws are actual net gains to the public coffers. These certainly aren't.

I'm still torn.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

This is where I see the difference. Smokers can't keep it to themselves. It's physically impossible.

If I really liked a certain kind of drink, but part of drinking it meant I was spitting it out all over the people at the tables around me how long do you think it would last before a smoker told me to cut it out?

Neither can children. So what do you think of my proposal to ban kids from restaurants and theatres, really all public places, say under the age of 8.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by milkman Jr

Neither can children. So what do you think of my proposal to ban kids from restaurants and theatres, really all public places, say under the age of 8.

I'm all for proprietors throwing people out who can't keep to themselves. If that's because of kids, or a drunk buddy, or whatever.

Sadly the first guy that does that is going to get sued into oblivion.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by FAX

I don't understand the "rights" argument very well, Mr. RedNeckRaider.

I mean, you still have the "right" to smoke your tail off at home, correct? How is it a "right" to gas your poor neighbors? You have the "right" to stick a croquet mallet up your ass, paint your pecker purple, and walk around naked in your own house, but society has the "right" to curtail that sort of activity in public, do they not?

FAX

So Bob Dole's privately owned business (you know...the one where Bob Dole assumes all the financial risk) is now "public"?

[TN_Chief]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

So Bob Dole's privately owned business (you know...the one where Bob Dole assumes all the financial risk) is now "public"?

Is Bob Dole allowed to refuse service to blacks or women? I didn't think so.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by TN_Chief

Is Bob Dole allowed to refuse service to blacks or women? I didn't think so.

Not unless the senator is running a golf club.