KC residents - How are you voting on the smoking ban in April?

[Bowser]

Let's get a definitive look on how the Planet feels about this. Poll on the way.

[ShortRoundChief]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

my rugrats don't kill an estimated 10 million people a year.

they're young, give em some time

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Stewie

I'm sorry I posted in this thread earlier. Apparently Mr. Flopnuts can't distinguish between farting in public and the gestapo busting down your door.

I think what he is saying is that if a person wants to open a cigar bar and to keep it simple the owner is the only employee, that person should be able to. A posted sign warning smoking allowed gives you the right not to enter. Why shouldn't the owner have the right to operate his bussiness? I agree with limited bans just not city wide bans. It is a rights issue.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Is smoking actually a civil liberty? Besides, nobody is taking anybody's right to smoke. They're putting up boundaries. I have no issue with it.

Doesn't affect me but even if it did, I wouldn't care. I wouldn't smoke in a restaurant even if I did smoke.

Same, out of respect for other people. Thats the way i have always been. Even when i did smoke years and years ago.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I think what he is saying is that if a person wants to open a cigar bar and to keep it simple the owner is the only employee, that person should be able to. A posted sign warning smoking allowed gives you the right not to enter. Why shouldn't the owner have the right to operate his bussiness? I agree with limited bans just not city wide bans. It is a rights issue.

I see your point and think that is a good idea, but under the ban, these places couldn't serve food (I think). There's nothing wrong woth a cigar bar, as that you are not going to find families or children there. Hell, it might come down to having cigarrette bars, too. I'd be fine with that, as well.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I see your point and think that is a good idea, but under the ban, these places couldn't serve food (I think). There's nothing wrong woth a cigar bar, as that you are not going to find families or children there. Hell, it might come down to having cigarrette bars, too. I'd be fine with that, as well.

That is my point while working in Arkansas they passed a limited ban. It only allows smoking in a bussiness that is 21 to enter. I am ok with that type of a ban.

[Adept Havelock]

I'm an ex-smoker who quit a few years ago. I think it should be left to the business owners, and the public should decide for themselves by voting with their dollars.

As for Employees, they are equally free to decide if they want to work at a business that allows smoking or not.

Obviously, I'll be voting against this ban.

[Stewie]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

I think what he is saying is that if a person wants to open a cigar bar and to keep it simple the owner is the only employee, that person should be able to. A posted sign warning smoking allowed gives you the right not to enter. Why shouldn't the owner have the right to operate his bussiness? I agree with limited bans just not city wide bans. It is a rights issue.

I don't live in KCMO so I don't know the details. Where I live, things like smoking in bars is OK. There's a threshold on % of food served that defines a restaurant.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

I'm an ex-smoker who quit a few years ago. I think it should be left to the business owners, and the public should decide for themselves by voting with their dollars.

As for Employees, they are equally free to decide if they want to work at a business that allows smoking or not.

Obviously, I'll be voting against this ban.

Good for you to stand by what you believe. Props.


As I've said before - if smoking bans can be successful in places like New York, Chicago, and LA, I see no reason to why one couldn't work here. And last I checked, there was no civil uprising in these places over this issue.

[DaFace]

You need an "I don't live in KC but want to see the results" option.

As for the question, I don't smoke, and I generally think it's a pretty disgusting habit. However, if I go somewhere that smoking is allowed, and I don't like it, I have the right to leave. I'm not a big fan of government regulating things like that.

Originally Posted by DaFace

You need an "I don't live in KC but want to see the results" option.

Yeah. You'd think they'd have a feature called "View Results" or something like that.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

I've said this before, and I will say it again. If you vote yes to people losing their civil liberties because it makes life more convenient for you, don't cry when it's your civil liberties that you lose on the next election. You have nothing to complain about, because you contribute to the problem.

Jesus H. Christ on a crutch. Once again:

Your exercising of your rights cannot infringe on other's abilities to exercise theirs. Since everyone has a right to life, unless and until you can keep that smoke entirely to yourself your right to the pursuit of happiness does not outweigh everyone else's right to life.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Phobia

Yeah. You'd think they'd have a feature called "View Results" or something like that.

Yeah, but that requires that I click it every time I revisit the thread, and I'm a lazy bastard.

[Simplex3]

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

Why should I have to listen to your whiny, messy kids when I'm trying to enjoy a meal. At least you can sit in the non smoking section, I can't find a restaurant that has a no rugrat section.

My kids behave. Do you have smokeless cigarettes?

[Marlboros Chief]

That's why I live out in Gainesville, no liberal bullshit like that around here.

[SPchief]

Originally Posted by Simplex3

Jesus H. Christ on a crutch. Once again:

Your exercising of your rights cannot infringe on other's abilities to exercise theirs. Since everyone has a right to life, unless and until you can keep that smoke entirely to yourself your right to the pursuit of happiness does not outweigh everyone else's right to life.

You also have the right to choose a place that doesn't allow smoking. You have the right to sit in the non-smoking section of places that do allow smoking.