After the dust settles ... Jared Allen

CupidStunt · 03-06-2008, 04:40 PM

As I see it, the Chiefs have two options: (1) Suck it up and give Allen the $85 million-plus deal that the market has set for him, or (2) trade him and get whatever they can BEFORE May, which should be something decent.

A third and final potential option would be to go into the season with Allen under contract for just one year. However, I can't possibly fathom how an organization, no matter how stupid (even Carl Peterson stupid), could do this, given that we know -- and I, for one, believe him -- Allen will never sign a long-term deal with KC if this happens and then he'd walk away for nothing.

The question is two-fold: (1) Balls on the table - what do you think WILL happen, and (2) all things considered, what do you HOPE happens?

Valiant · 03-06-2008, 04:44 PM

Think: We trade him for a 1st and 3rd this year, and 2nd next year.. Because Carl is too incompetent to get 2 1sts out of someone.. OR more to Carl's Style.. We get a 1st and 4th this year and switch some lower positions around in this draft and call it good(basically we get ****ed).. Anything less then 2 1sts for Allen is screwing the Chiefs over..

I would hope that JA signs a long-term contract that has a stipulation in it that if he gets suspended again that he has to pay back some money.. But it will never happen, I dont mind making him the richest DE if he did this..

T-post Tom · 03-06-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

As I see it, the Chiefs have two options: (1) Suck it up and give Allen the $85 million-plus deal that the market has set for him, or (2) trade him and get whatever they can BEFORE May, which should be something decent.

A third and final potential option would be to go into the season with Allen under contract for just one year. However, I can't possibly fathom how an organization, no matter how stupid (even Carl Peterson stupid), could do this, given that we know -- and I, for one, believe him -- Allen will never sign a long-term deal with KC if this happens and then he'd walk away for nothing.

The question is two-fold: (1) Balls on the table - what do you think WILL happen, and (2) all things considered, what do you HOPE happens?

Same answer for both questions: Allen gets signed to long term deal. That said, the Chiefs could also choose to tag him next year as well.

Zouk · 03-06-2008, 05:01 PM

Couldn't we franchise him again next offseason and trade him then?

chagrin · 03-06-2008, 05:02 PM

I hope I never have to read another thread saying the same two or three things that the CHIEFS have to do with him, seriously

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-06-2008, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

Couldn't we franchise him again next offseason and trade him then?

We'd lose a lot of leverage, considering he's made it public knowledge that he won't sign a long term deal if he plays under the tag.

That's not a game of chicken I'd like to play.

If you wanna trade him, trade him NOW.

CupidStunt · 03-06-2008, 05:08 PM

His value won't get much higher. "Weak" draft, career year, younger, etc.

gta0012 · 03-06-2008, 05:36 PM

Guys...why would we sign him in a year where we have a top 5 draft pick?

We tag him pay him shit money.

If he has a great year we reward him with a large contract next year when we have more cap room from all of our cuts this year.

It just makes sense to not award him a big contract if we can still keep him around this year.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 03-06-2008, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gta0012

Guys...why would we sign him in a year where we have a top 5 draft pick?

We tag him pay him shit money.

If he has a great year we reward him with a large contract next year when we have more cap room from all of our cuts this year.

It just makes sense to not award him a big contract if we can still keep him around this year.

See post 6.

beach tribe · 03-06-2008, 05:42 PM

He rapes Carl. Then he rapes QBs for the next 6-7 years.

Bump · 03-06-2008, 05:44 PM

I would much rather sign JA to a long term deal and make him a Chief for life.

Halfcan · 03-06-2008, 05:55 PM

JA is a young man at Risk-cut his ass-lol

philfree · 03-06-2008, 06:20 PM

Just keep tagging his ass year after year if he won't sign a long term deal. No way he sits out when he can make $9mil a year. He'll eventually sign.

PhilFree

SBK · 03-06-2008, 06:41 PM

He'll play under the tag this year, and have a huge year with Ellis or Dorsey next to him. If he stays out of trouble he signs an even bigger deal next year than he would have got this year.....

kcchiefsus · 03-06-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gta0012

Guys...why would we sign him in a year where we have a top 5 draft pick?

We tag him pay him shit money.

If he has a great year we reward him with a large contract next year when we have more cap room from all of our cuts this year.

It just makes sense to not award him a big contract if we can still keep him around this year.

He said he will never sign a long term contract if he has to play under the franchise tender.

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Valiant Valiant 'The Thread Killer' Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $6132380	Think: We trade him for a 1st and 3rd this year, and 2nd next year.. Because Carl is too incompetent to get 2 1sts out of someone.. OR more to Carl's Style.. We get a 1st and 4th this year and switch some lower positions around in this draft and call it good(basically we get ****ed).. Anything less then 2 1sts for Allen is screwing the Chiefs over.. I would hope that JA signs a long-term contract that has a stipulation in it that if he gets suspended again that he has to pay back some money.. But it will never happen, I dont mind making him the richest DE if he did this..
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SBK Curry is the pick??? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Casino cash: $10004900	He'll play under the tag this year, and have a huge year with Ellis or Dorsey next to him. If he stays out of trouble he signs an even bigger deal next year than he would have got this year.....
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