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Old 03-28-2008, 12:22 PM   #1
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No, the goal shouldn't be to get better immediately. It should be to let a whole bunch of young players learn how to play. Not for Larry Johnson to get his 1500 yards, and for Carl to get all his home victories. Personally, I don't care about any of that.
How about for our QB to have a chance to show what he has behind reasonable protection?!
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:24 PM   #2
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How about for our QB to have a chance to show what he has behind reasonable protection?!
Brodie Croyle will not last 6 games before he's injured this year, no matter who you draft. Bookmark this post.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:20 PM   #3
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I'm saying we have to get better before we get good. We're not going to the playoffs next year, but if we can improve to 7-8 wins we'll be in a position to make a move the year after. Its not the end game, but if we only win 4 games again next year, we're moving in the wrong direction and are that much farther away from being a playoff team. The goal should be to get better. I think doubling our win total would be fantastic for this team.
You are trying to reason with people who want to have a "star" on the team and not nececessarily building blocks. That's all they mean by "BPA." they would love for Brodie to fail behind a crappy O-line because "there is Matt Ryan out there." Even if failing means getting beaten the piss out of him behind a crappy Oline. If the sniff-and-discard mentality of some fans were to be followed, the Chiefs would have been without TG, LJ and even Neil Smith.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:23 PM   #4
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Yeah, this team couldn't use any stars. Let's just keep trying to make chicken salad out of dog crap.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:26 PM   #5
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Yeah, this team couldn't use any stars. Let's just keep trying to make chicken salad out of dog crap.
He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:40 PM   #6
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He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
The first NE superbowl winning team was without "stars." The undefeated Dolphins had less "stars" than our Chiefs team has right now.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:43 PM   #7
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He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
You aren't gonna have any stars [at least on O] without QB protection.

And if there are teams that are good without high O-line picks, those same teams FOUND quality O-linemen somewhere. While there might be teams without high pick O-lineman, there aren't any with shitty O-lines.

Heck the difference between DV's offense and our present offense boils down more than ANYTHING to Roaf, with the degeneration of the rest of line a close second.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:10 PM   #8
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Why can't people understand that winning 8 games next year isn't the goal, and that you shouldn't base your draft on that?
WHO IS SAYING THAT?!!
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:12 PM   #9
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It's rather simple.
The Offensive Line is this team's achilles heel.
It stands to reason that we'd make it a priority in April.

Why everyone else can't understand that I don't know.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:19 PM   #10
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It's rather simple.
The Offensive Line is this team's achilles heel.
It stands to reason that we'd make it a priority in April.

Why everyone else can't understand that I don't know.
Because this team has 2 achilles heels.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:20 PM   #11
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It's rather simple.
The Offensive Line is this team's achilles heel.
It stands to reason that we'd make it a priority in April.

Why everyone else can't understand that I don't know.
Uh pretty much the entire team is an "achillies heel" start comparing the Chiefs talent at any position to good teams tell me where they compare, this entire team needs upgraded.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:34 PM   #12
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Uh pretty much the entire team is an "achillies heel" start comparing the Chiefs talent at any position to good teams tell me where they compare, this entire team needs upgraded.
Wrong! It only looks that way because a weak-looking chain is only as strong as it's weakest links. Change those links and the chain will be strong. How is it that some teams are shitty one year and playoff contenders the next?
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:36 PM   #13
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Wrong! It only looks that way because a weak-looking chain is only as strong as it's weakest links. Change those links and the chain will be strong. How is it that some teams are shitty one year and playoff contenders the next?
I never do this but, son you're a moron.

This entire god damn team sucks ****in ass. This team has a couple of players nothing more. We are one of the absolute worst teams in the league all the way around it is not just the Oline.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:36 PM   #14
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Wrong! It only looks that way because a weak-looking chain is only as strong as it's weakest links. Change those links and the chain will be strong. How is it that some teams are shitty one year and playoff contenders the next?
Wow, yet another lame metaphor to explain why we should ignore everything else that's wrong with this team.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:39 PM   #15
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Uh pretty much the entire team is an "achillies heel" start comparing the Chiefs talent at any position to good teams tell me where they compare, this entire team needs upgraded.
Bull Shit Mecca. Even the best teams are made up of mostly above average role players. The league is too watered down for it to be any other way. The solid core players make the rest look, and perform a hell of a lot better.

I'm not saying anthing about who we should draft, that is a dead horse at this point.

We fill some of our gaping holes with solid starters, and we are a few "stars" away from contending about two to three seasons from now if we draft correctly. If we don't have the final pieces by then we'll have plenty of cash to buy them.
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