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Old 03-28-2008, 11:40 AM   #1
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Why can't people understand that winning 8 games next year isn't the goal, and that you shouldn't base your draft on that?
I'm saying we have to get better before we get good. We're not going to the playoffs next year, but if we can improve to 7-8 wins we'll be in a position to make a move the year after. Its not the end game, but if we only win 4 games again next year, we're moving in the wrong direction and are that much farther away from being a playoff team. The goal should be to get better. I think doubling our win total would be fantastic for this team.
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Old 03-28-2008, 11:45 AM   #2
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I'm saying we have to get better before we get good. We're not going to the playoffs next year, but if we can improve to 7-8 wins we'll be in a position to make a move the year after. Its not the end game, but if we only win 4 games again next year, we're moving in the wrong direction and are that much farther away from being a playoff team. The goal should be to get better. I think doubling our win total would be fantastic for this team.
No, the goal shouldn't be to get better immediately. It should be to let a whole bunch of young players learn how to play. Not for Larry Johnson to get his 1500 yards, and for Carl to get all his home victories. Personally, I don't care about any of that.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:22 PM   #3
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No, the goal shouldn't be to get better immediately. It should be to let a whole bunch of young players learn how to play. Not for Larry Johnson to get his 1500 yards, and for Carl to get all his home victories. Personally, I don't care about any of that.
How about for our QB to have a chance to show what he has behind reasonable protection?!
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:24 PM   #4
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How about for our QB to have a chance to show what he has behind reasonable protection?!
Brodie Croyle will not last 6 games before he's injured this year, no matter who you draft. Bookmark this post.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:20 PM   #5
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I'm saying we have to get better before we get good. We're not going to the playoffs next year, but if we can improve to 7-8 wins we'll be in a position to make a move the year after. Its not the end game, but if we only win 4 games again next year, we're moving in the wrong direction and are that much farther away from being a playoff team. The goal should be to get better. I think doubling our win total would be fantastic for this team.
You are trying to reason with people who want to have a "star" on the team and not nececessarily building blocks. That's all they mean by "BPA." they would love for Brodie to fail behind a crappy O-line because "there is Matt Ryan out there." Even if failing means getting beaten the piss out of him behind a crappy Oline. If the sniff-and-discard mentality of some fans were to be followed, the Chiefs would have been without TG, LJ and even Neil Smith.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:23 PM   #6
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Yeah, this team couldn't use any stars. Let's just keep trying to make chicken salad out of dog crap.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:26 PM   #7
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Yeah, this team couldn't use any stars. Let's just keep trying to make chicken salad out of dog crap.
He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:40 PM   #8
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He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
The first NE superbowl winning team was without "stars." The undefeated Dolphins had less "stars" than our Chiefs team has right now.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:41 PM   #9
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The first NE superbowl winning team was without "stars." The undefeated Dolphins had less "stars" than our Chiefs team has right now.
They also had great quarterbacks and great defenses.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:42 PM   #10
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They also had great quarterbacks and great defenses.

Defensive stars don't count in Frankies mind.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:41 PM   #11
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The first NE superbowl winning team was without "stars." The undefeated Dolphins had less "stars" than our Chiefs team has right now.
For the love of god do not compare 1972 to now, the league is completely different.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:43 PM   #12
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He wants a team that gets killed by good teams every year........you aren't gonna win shit with no stars.

Argue for Oline constantly but Frankie guess what, there are numerous good times that spent exactly 0 first round picks on Olinemen.
You aren't gonna have any stars [at least on O] without QB protection.

And if there are teams that are good without high O-line picks, those same teams FOUND quality O-linemen somewhere. While there might be teams without high pick O-lineman, there aren't any with shitty O-lines.

Heck the difference between DV's offense and our present offense boils down more than ANYTHING to Roaf, with the degeneration of the rest of line a close second.
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Old 03-28-2008, 12:48 PM   #13
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You aren't gonna have any stars [at least on O] without QB protection.

And if there are teams that are good without high O-line picks, those same teams FOUND quality O-linemen somewhere. While there might be teams without high pick O-lineman, there aren't any with shitty O-lines.

Heck the difference between DV's offense and our present offense boils down more than ANYTHING to Roaf, with the degeneration of the rest of line a close second.
Can't argue with that.
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