I Am Sorry Mr. Self

[Brock]

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

In theory it is, but before last night, what exactly has KU's basketball program done in the past 20 years, that makes everyone think they are elite?

Just because you have a storied tradition, doesn't make you elite. Winning meaningful games makes you elite, besides last night, where are all these national championships that elite teams have? Hell, how about final 4 visits? See, they're aren't too many of them, thus negating any eliteness, that so many Jayhawks wish to believe is the case. Sorry, but I don't buy the hype.

They've been to the final four 13 times. I guess if that's "not too many" you're right. Champs 3 times, runner up 5 times. I just realized I'm arguing with a reeruned person. See ya.