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Old 07-07-2008, 07:05 AM  
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The "Official" Cardinals Discussion Thread.

Figured that if we had one thread to discuss Cardinals "stuff" it would be easier to find. What do you think? Good idea?
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:27 PM   #751
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Thats part of the deal. Lidge is hot this year. He's performing at the highest level. He's making All-Stars look foolish. The rooks will do better next time. Remember the Pujols at bat against Lidge before the homer in 2005? Pujols struck out horribly lunging at a pitch in the dirt lost his balance etc. The next at bat? One of the hardest hit balls I've ever seen.

Its easy to handle these horrible games or at least tolerate them without kicking the dog because we won it all in 2006 and all the glowing reports on the prospects down on the farm that are looking ready to contribute in 2009 and 2010.
I'm not mad at all, and very pleased with the team. I just think that they should have gone up there with a better scouting report on him. Lidge cannot throw the slider for a strike, but people get overanxious in that situation. You just have to lay the bat on your shoulder for two pitches and let him dig his own grave.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:32 PM   #752
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Biggest free agent this off season is Dave Duncan. But I don't see him leaving Tony for another team despite the money the Yanks or Sox would throw at him.
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Old 08-05-2008, 02:35 PM   #753
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Brad "Light Up" Lidge is having a MUCH better year in Philly.... not like those battery throwers would stand for any less.

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Old 08-05-2008, 03:49 PM   #754
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Biggest free agent this off season is Dave Duncan. But I don't see him leaving Tony for another team despite the money the Yanks or Sox would throw at him.
I don't think Epstein would ever hire a "pitch to contact" type coach.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:49 PM   #756
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the cardinals bullpen is incredibly awful. they can't even hold a 4-0 lead in the 9th.
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Old 08-05-2008, 09:56 PM   #758
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i don't see how anybody could argue against wainwright being the closer at this point.
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It really is the worst bullpen in the history of the earth. Every single person down there, save McClellan and maybe Springer, needs to be put on their knees in the bullpen, summarily executed, and their bodies need to be strung from the flag poles around the stadium.
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i don't see how anybody could argue against wainwright being the closer at this point.
Yeah, because putting the guy who averages 7 innings into the bullpen will really help hide the weaknesses of the pen.

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Yeah at this point they need starters who can go the distance. No lead is safe when the starter leaves.
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Yeah, because putting the guy who averages 7 innings into the bullpen will really help hide the weaknesses of the pen.

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the cardinals have blown what, 30 saves this year? which means they would have far and away the best record in baseball if they had a closer. i don't understand how that is overrated.
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