Gretz: Chiefs LBs suck

[The Bad Guy]

So Donnie Edwards is now a backup?

Great signing.

Free agency has doomed this team as much as the draft.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So Donnie Edwards is now a backup?

Great signing.

Free agency has doomed this team as much as the draft.

Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

[ILChief]

good thing we let Mitchell and Fujita walk.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Maybe the smartest post ive ever seen on here.

It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.


sorry for the rant

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

It's so true though. With all due respect to the Hunts, what the **** kind of owner allows a GM to stay with his team for 19 years with no real success, but ticket sales? The NFL is both about winning Super Bowls, and business, but it's obvious to the people that possess common sense that it's more about business as far as the Chiefs go.

You keep your tickets, you keep buying merchandise...then the status quo remains status quo.

The only way for fans to get their voice in is to not buy tickets, not buy merchandise. But that will not ever be the case. We are in football hell because we love our team so much that we won't ever say no to a friend that says, "hey man, I got an extra ticket, you wanna go? 80 bucks." Or say no to that new hat or jersey that your favorite player possesses when you go to the mall.

We really are in hell. Most of the teams are though, except for the usuals, because they know how to draft, how to be selective with free agents, etc. They have the right people running the show. We, obviously, don't.

And until they show different, the fans have the right to not believe in what Herm is trying to do, until they show it on the field.

It's the Show Me State, bitches. Show us.


sorry for the rant

No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on to this fossil?

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

No need to be sorry. I agree 100%

I just hope Clark wakes up soon. Chiefs fans will always be Chiefs fans. Of course they will buy the tickets and gear. It doesnt matter who the GM is. So why do the Hunts continue to hold on this fossil?

IMO, they hold onto Carl because he is a good business man, and he did bring the Chiefs back from the dead when he was hired in 89 and brought Marty in. Carl should've resigned with Marty in 98, then I don't think fans would be too hard on Carl or the Hunts.

Marty knew his time was up, I hated him as a coach, but at least he knew it was time to go. Carl is too comfy where he's at.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Vanilla Thunder

Nothing will change with this team until they do a full out overall major super house cleaning. The culture at One Arrowhead Drive is a losing one, and that needs to be changed. That can only be done with new blood; a new direction.

Well said, Mr. Vanilla Thunder. It begins and ends with Clarkie. At this point, our problems are systemic. This linebacker situation is just another symptom of Peterson's disease. The franchise is dysfunctional. We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by FAX

We fire guys who are better than the guys we're starting now and pick up new guys who can't even make the team when the starting guys suck worse than the guys we had before. It's insane.

FAX

Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

[FAX]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Who was the DC who wanted all of these changes made?

Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by FAX

Point, Mr. Coogs. Was it our resident mad German who was responsible for canning Fujita, though? Or, was it Robinson? I can't remember. Nevertheless, if our defense suffers this year, it may well be the last we'll see of Guntheriffic.

FAX

He went to the Cowboys in 2005. That would make it under Guns watch. My guess is that is when Bell came in as well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So Donnie Edwards is now a backup?

Great signing.

Free agency has doomed this team as much as the draft.

I think Donnie is only being considered a backup at this time because of his injury. I would think that once he's fully healthy, he'd play over Williams.

Regardless, can't argue one bit about the bolded line.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I think Donnie is only being considered a backup at this time because of his injury. I would think that once he's fully healthy, he'd play over Williams.

Regardless, can't argue one bit about the bolded line.

I think Donnie is all but done.

He's old, and he can no longer stay on the field.
His one strength, speed. is neutralized by his hammy issues.

He was never as good otherwise as most Chiefs fans think he was.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by milkman

I think Donnie is all but done.

He's old, and he can no longer stay on the field.
His one strength, speed. is neutralized by his hammy issues.

He was never as good otherwise as most Chiefs fans think he was.

I like your takes on here.

But I've never seen you once say a player is as good as everyone thinks he is.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I like your takes on here.

But I've never seen you once say a player is as good as everyone thinks he is.

I can see that.

I rarely comment on players that are getting deserved praise, I guess.

So, in an effort to be a little more positive, I believe that Willie Roaf and Will Shields, in spite of all the props they got, were still a little underrated.