News Pot dealer's tragic choice ended in death

**KcMizzou** · 08-26-2008, 08:08 PM

She was caught with a 1/4 pound of pot, and 6 extacy pills...

The had her arrange a buy for cocaine, 1,500 extacy pills and a gun. They put the girl in way over her head, and they damn well knew it.

Mecca · 08-26-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

She was caught with a 1/4 pound of pot, and 6 extacy pills...

The had her arrange a buy for cocaine, 1,500 extacy pills and a gun. They put the girl in way over her head, and they damn well knew it.

And the Chiefs response is essentially "**** her she was a criminal"

**chasedude** · 08-26-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

And the Chiefs response is essentially "**** her she was a criminal"

I think he's a criminal now, so **** him!

Simply Red · 08-26-2008, 08:18 PM

**chasedude** · 08-26-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

She was caught with a 1/4 pound of pot, and 6 extacy pills...

The had her arrange a buy for cocaine, 1,500 extacy pills and a gun. They put the girl in way over her head, and they damn well knew it.

don't forget the pistol she was supposed to buy. It's probably the weapon that killed her.

**KcMizzou** · 08-26-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chasedude

don't forget the pistol she was supposed to buy. It's probably the weapon that killed her.

I mentioned it, and it was.

Anyone who defends the police in this situation, probably didn't watch the video that was linked.

It's tragic, and unforgivable. The girl had no business being put in that position to begin with.

**chasedude** · 08-26-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I mentioned it, and it was.

Anyone who defends the police in this situation, probably didn't watch the video that was linked.

It's tragic, and unforgivable. The girl had no business being put in that position to begin with.

yeah you did mention the gun, missed it. But you're right, a professional should have been doing this deal and she was not one.

KingPriest2 · 08-27-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I mentioned it, and it was.

Anyone who defends the police in this situation, probably didn't watch the video that was linked.

It's tragic, and unforgivable. The girl had no business being put in that position to begin with.

Lay the blame where it should be
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 11:37am
The TPD is not at fault for Rachel Hoffman's death. Her and her murderers are to blame. Yes, the TPD asked her to be an informant. But they told her not to meet with the suspects on her own and she did it anyway. This is what got her killed. The police are not required to hold the informant's hand at all times or watch over them 24/7. Anyone who thinks that this is their job are really lacking in any common sense. I am very sorry that the parents are going through this right now. I couldn't imagine losing one of my children through any means. But the focus right now needs to be one the men who killed her and not demonizing the people protecting us

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KingPriest2 · 08-27-2008, 02:21 PM

First she should not have been put into that postion at all. Since she was she should have been trained she was not. The TPD probably felt they were helping her out by not reporting it because if they did maybe the deal could not be worked out I don't know I feel they did threaten her and they should not have. So the TPD is at fault

MY question is

Why did she leave and go to the suspects after being told not to leave the park? If that is true if they told her that.

If she was then in a way it was her fault but in a way if she was trained she might have known better.

Abba-Dabba · 08-28-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by KingPriest2

Lay the blame where it should be
Comment posted by Anonymous on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 11:37am
The TPD is not at fault for Rachel Hoffman's death. Her and her murderers are to blame. Yes, the TPD asked her to be an informant. But they told her not to meet with the suspects on her own and she did it anyway. This is what got her killed. The police are not required to hold the informant's hand at all times or watch over them 24/7. Anyone who thinks that this is their job are really lacking in any common sense.

$13,000 of taxpayer money handed over to an informant is 13,000 reasons to have eye's on at all times while it is in the informants custody. Sloppy police work.

KingPriest2 · 08-28-2008, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Saggysack

$13,000 of taxpayer money handed over to an informant is 13,000 reasons to have eye's on at all times while it is in the informants custody. Sloppy police work.

Very true

sedated · 08-26-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

She was caught with a 1/4 pound of pot, and 6 extacy pills...

shit, that's one fun night in my hood

PastorMikH · 08-26-2008, 11:37 PM

Tragic. I definately think the police department should be in a lot of trouble over this one. Sounds like they not only didn't train the girl for the job, it sounds like they didn't train the officers involved either.

She did break the law, granted. But, at most she should have been cohersed into telling names of people she had contact with, if she were unwilling, file the charges. To send her out on something of this magnitude is just plain stupid.

As for the drug court, if she had gotten back into using pot, why wasn't it caught there? I have had several people locally I know who have been involved with drug courts. They have to submit themselves to UTs frequently. If they are using, it gets noticed.

eazyb81 · 08-26-2008, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

She was caught with a 1/4 pound of pot, and 6 extacy pills...

How is that enough to put her away for 4 years? I've known guys that have been busted with much more than that and haven't served any time.

**KcMizzou** · 08-26-2008, 08:23 PM

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How is that enough to put her away for 4 years? I've known guys that have been busted with much more than that and haven't served any time.

I'm sure what they say could happen, and what actually happens are very different things. They got hold of a young naive college girl, and tried to take advantage. She simply didn't know any better.

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