News Pot dealer's tragic choice ended in death - Page 7

**chasedude** · 08-26-2008, 07:35 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5454035

15 min ABC video about Rachel Hoffman 23, a college student busted with dealing pot. She was given a choice to be an informant or 4 years in prison.
The "deal" she was on went terribly wrong ending in her death.

The Tallahassee police clearly were looking for the bust and were not taking her safety in mind. She was not a professional but was asked to purchase large quantities of drugs and a hand gun. She had no weapons charges but was asked to purchase one. The police blame her because she left the plan that was originally conceived.

The Tallahassee police FAILED horribly in so many ways.

Sorry if repost, I searched!

Chiefnj2 · 08-26-2008, 09:12 PM

The sad thing is that since the police never reported her to the court system they were just going to continue to use her even if this bust had gone through.

**KcMizzou** · 08-26-2008, 09:22 PM

I'll be honest, I've smoked weed. (shocking, I know) And the person I got it from was very close to me. I'm not the only one who has ever gotten weed from this person, but they've all been close.

So, In my mind, I don't think of them as a "dealer". It's more like, a buddy... sharing. If you were to consider them a dealer, they'd be the smallest of "small time".

I could see this person going down like this girl did... and that's just... ****ed up.

There's no reason for it. It's a vast overreaction.

PastorMikH · 08-26-2008, 11:37 PM

Tragic. I definately think the police department should be in a lot of trouble over this one. Sounds like they not only didn't train the girl for the job, it sounds like they didn't train the officers involved either.

She did break the law, granted. But, at most she should have been cohersed into telling names of people she had contact with, if she were unwilling, file the charges. To send her out on something of this magnitude is just plain stupid.

As for the drug court, if she had gotten back into using pot, why wasn't it caught there? I have had several people locally I know who have been involved with drug courts. They have to submit themselves to UTs frequently. If they are using, it gets noticed.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-27-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnight_Vulture

Sigh

Dont any of you idiots know how this crap works? Its the dealers fault for being in that situation in the first place. Maybe if they werent dealing drugs and worked a REAL job instead...they wouldnt be in that situation.

Havent any of you tards seen True Romance???

I missed that flick. I was out stealing a laptop and mackin the bitches on my sweet bike. Chicks dig those you know.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-27-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sedated

cocaine is a hell of a drug

MadMax · 08-27-2008, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

I'll be honest, I've smoked weed. (shocking, I know) And the person I got it from was very close to me. I'm not the only one who has ever gotten weed from this person, but they've all been close.

So, In my mind, I don't think of them as a "dealer". It's more like, a buddy... sharing. If you were to consider them a dealer, they'd be the smallest of "small time".

I could see this person going down like this girl did... and that's just... ****ed up.

There's no reason for it. It's a vast overreaction.

Yep and I wish SANE people would realize this and change the laws.

Mecca · 08-27-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

Yep and I wish SANE people would realize this and change the laws.

Canada did and our country got mad about it.......the war on drugs is reeruned but they'll never change those stances because weed smoking hurts the tobacco and alcohol industries...

MadMax · 08-27-2008, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

I missed that flick. I was out stealing a laptop and mackin the bitches on my sweet bike. Chicks dig those you know.

When did you get a bike?

BTW I want my laptop back Mister.

MadMax · 08-27-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Canada did and our country got mad about it.......the war on drugs is reeruned but they'll never change those stances because weed smoking hurts the tobacco and alcohol industries...

I hear ya Mecca, we are hopelessly ****ed by political correctness and elitist assholes who have no fear of the laws they make.

Nothing really ever changes.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 08-27-2008, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MadMax

I hear ya Mecca, we are hopelessly ****ed by political correctness and elitist assholes who have no fear of the laws they make.

Nothing really ever changes.

I prefer elitist dickheads, but I'm pickin up what you're layin down.

Mecca · 08-27-2008, 12:33 AM

Did you know weed is listed as a class 1 substance which means according to that list it has less medicinal value than meth?

I'm serious and they won't change it and their excuse is "it sends a bad message"

MadMax · 08-27-2008, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts

I prefer elitist dickheads, but I'm pickin up what you're layin down.

Did you know that in Missouri if you are caught growing more than 3 plants you have the possibility of life without parole?

kcxiv · 08-27-2008, 01:43 AM

Weed shouldnt be a ****ing crime in the first place. Shit is reeruned.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-27-2008, 01:43 AM

That Chief is a douchebag. They really dropped the ball. I think the parents have a case for a wrongful death suit.

kcxiv · 08-27-2008, 01:45 AM

Also had a friend recently get busted for dealing alot of meth. She was a chick as well. She didnt give anyone up took her 6 years how she's supposed to. You play, you pay.

You just cant open your mouth with shit like that. I would have taken the 4 years as well. 4 years or my life? hmm hard choice.

08-26-2008, 07:35 PM
chasedude Supporter Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: St. Joe Casino cash: $9994900	Pot dealer's tragic choice ended in death http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5454035 15 min ABC video about Rachel Hoffman 23, a college student busted with dealing pot. She was given a choice to be an informant or 4 years in prison. The "deal" she was on went terribly wrong ending in her death. The Tallahassee police clearly were looking for the bust and were not taking her safety in mind. She was not a professional but was asked to purchase large quantities of drugs and a hand gun. She had no weapons charges but was asked to purchase one. The police blame her because she left the plan that was originally conceived. The Tallahassee police FAILED horribly in so many ways. Sorry if repost, I searched!
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08-26-2008, 09:12 PM	#91
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	The sad thing is that since the police never reported her to the court system they were just going to continue to use her even if this bust had gone through. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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08-26-2008, 09:22 PM	#92
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	I'll be honest, I've smoked weed. (shocking, I know) And the person I got it from was very close to me. I'm not the only one who has ever gotten weed from this person, but they've all been close. So, In my mind, I don't think of them as a "dealer". It's more like, a buddy... sharing. If you were to consider them a dealer, they'd be the smallest of "small time". I could see this person going down like this girl did... and that's just... ***ed up. There's no reason for it. It's a vast overreaction. Last edited by KcMizzou; 08-26-2008 at 09:27 PM..*
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08-26-2008, 11:37 PM	#93
PastorMikH Will KC ever be better? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Land of Red Dirt & Necks Casino cash: $9905087	Tragic. I definately think the police department should be in a lot of trouble over this one. Sounds like they not only didn't train the girl for the job, it sounds like they didn't train the officers involved either. She did break the law, granted. But, at most she should have been cohersed into telling names of people she had contact with, if she were unwilling, file the charges. To send her out on something of this magnitude is just plain stupid. As for the drug court, if she had gotten back into using pot, why wasn't it caught there? I have had several people locally I know who have been involved with drug courts. They have to submit themselves to UTs frequently. If they are using, it gets noticed. __________________ Last edited by PastorMikH; 08-26-2008 at 11:45 PM..
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08-27-2008, 12:33 AM	#101
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-662950	Did you know weed is listed as a class 1 substance which means according to that list it has less medicinal value than meth? I'm serious and they won't change it and their excuse is "it sends a bad message"
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08-27-2008, 01:43 AM	#103
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	Weed shouldnt be a ****ing crime in the first place. Shit is reeruned.
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08-27-2008, 01:43 AM	#104
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	That Chief is a douchebag. They really dropped the ball. I think the parents have a case for a wrongful death suit.
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08-27-2008, 01:45 AM	#105
kcxiv In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Central Valley, Cali Casino cash: $8697996	Also had a friend recently get busted for dealing alot of meth. She was a chick as well. She didnt give anyone up took her 6 years how she's supposed to. You play, you pay. You just cant open your mouth with shit like that. I would have taken the 4 years as well. 4 years or my life? hmm hard choice.
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