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Old 09-03-2008, 01:23 PM  
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:40 PM   #46
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On a more serious note, this is absurdity. Herm is not an elite head coach, but he's nowhere near the worst in the league. I'd say he's a slightly above average head coach who needs an elite player to put him over the hump.
Disagree. Herm is below average to failure.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:43 PM   #47
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An elite player? He needs an elite team to ignore him. Plus two elite coaches to run the offense and defense for him.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:45 PM   #48
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If the Chiefs have a losing season, but get hot and show improvement towards the end of the season , that should buy Herm some time. But, if we go down in flames , he should feel the boot in the ass.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:46 PM   #49
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Yep, above average coaches don't have losing records.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:50 PM   #50
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An elite player? He needs an elite team to ignore him. Plus two elite coaches to run the offense and defense for him.
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Old 09-03-2008, 04:53 PM   #51
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Yep, above average coaches don't have losing records.
How do you explain Belichick's LOSING record in Cleveland?
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:08 PM   #52
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How do you explain Belichick's LOSING record in Cleveland?
He was actually better than hes given credit for there.

They went to the playoffs twice and his last season there fell apart once it was announced They were moving the team. Not his fault.
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:16 PM   #53
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He was actually better than hes given credit for there.

They went to the playoffs twice and his last season there fell apart once it was announced They were moving the team. Not his fault.
And going through 4 QB's in 2005 was Herm's fault?

Oddly enough, Herm's been to the playoffs FOUR times in seven years. Which is more than two, last I checked.

Bit of a double standard...
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:19 PM   #54
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My reasoning for why Herm is a failure.

1. Remember this article?

- Only a f**king moron could take over this team, watch the offense flop, then blame the SYSTEM for it. I mean... the offensive system has always been a problem, right? At the time, the scheme was not the goddamn problem, the players already know it and set RECORDS WITH IT. How in the hell can you simplify a offense, if we don't even have a goddamn playaction that was non-existiant in the first place? And of course, now our offense is EXACTLY what Herm wants, a GOOD NFL EUROPE offense instead of an ACTUAL NFL OFFENSE.

I guess this quote sums up well, eh?

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"When we score seven points, I’ll say we’re slow starting. If we score 21 points, I’ll say, ‘Whoa, we scored a lot of points.’ Twenty-one points – that’s a lot of points. Thirty points? That isn’t even a football game. That’s Arena Football. We’re talking about real football.”
2. Clock-management skills is horrible.

- Last time I checked, he's still the ONLY NFL coach to have a clock management coach, yet we all wonder why he still sucks at it? Come on man, if you have a clock management coach, you sure as hell don't belong in the NFL. Case in point, during the playoffs when the Chiefs needed a score and in a hurry, I was screaming at the TV during the game to hurry the f**k up!

9 minutes left and the Chiefs were lazily huddling and walking to the line of scrimmage....it was f**king disgusting, and Herm just stood their with that stupid f**king "Herm" look on his stupid f**king Herm face. I KNEW we're f**ked.

The object of the game off football on offense is to score a TD everytime you have the ball. Belichick knows this, Herman Edwards and the rest of the coaching staff doesn't.

Case in point. New England is up 42-10, 1 minute left in the 3rd quarter, heading to the 4th quarter. It's 4th quarter, 4 and 1 on the Buffalo 10.....and goes for it, adding ANOTHER TD 3 plays later.

On the same day, earlier, 1:15 left until halftime, with 3 TO's left, tie score vs the defending champs, Herman F**king Edwards goes to the locker room. Another play, 8 minutes left, tie score, 3rd and long and a submitting draw play/punt.

Something reeks here.

3. Firing assistant coaches who did NOT deserved to be fired, and hanging on to assistant coaches who has no business of being in the NFL.

- Explain to me why Terry Shea deserved to be fired in 2007 and replaced by Dickless Curling? After Trent having a MVP-like for almost 4 seasons, and not to mention that despite Damon's limitations and all, that Damon looked like a actual f**king QB, Terry Shea was replaced by Dickless Curling, who has no business of being in the NFL. Explain to me why Mike Priefer is still coaching for the special teams, when it's obvious that our special teams play have majorly sucked ass the last two years? I can go on and on on this subject, but i'll just leave it as this.

4. Lacks accountability/authority.

- Everybody remembered the HBO Hard Knocks fiasco where Herm and Dickless Curling was wanting to go with Brodie, but somehow Kingless Carla meddled into the situation perferring that Damon Horrid start the season. Even when it was CLEARLY obvious that pre-season that Croyle was outperforming Damon Horrid, Horrid somehow got the starting job. Huh? Of course it's obvious that Carl wanted Damon Horrid to be the starter becuase he KNOWS that he's in deep s**t already with the fans. He KNOWS that the Chiefs are going to suck this year, regardless of if it's Huard or Croyle back there. Carl is trying to save face, and hope for a 9-7 so he can just raise the f**king ticket prices, AGAIN! So, Herman F**king Edwards should had told him "F**k you, I'm starting Croyle, and if you don't like it, kiss my ass."

Even if it means Herm losing his job, I would have a hell of a respect for Herm if he grew some balls and went after Carl on that situation.

And when things goes wrong on the team, Herm does not accept the responsbility that a Head Coach should. He just either pass it to others or to the players, or well known as throwing others under the bus.

And finally, I'll never get over the "Get over it! It happens. It’s called life" comment. Motherf**ker should had been fired right after that press conference.
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:29 PM   #55
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I still blame Carl Peterson for not having a plan or drafting a LT & RG while big Willie & Will Shields were playing. He had plenty of time to prepare for those two to retire. Good or elite Franchise retool not rebuild. Carl Peterson imo never wanted a youth movement but uses it as a cruch now for excuses.
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:32 PM   #56
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Herman ****ing Edwards sucks ass, but not for the reasons cited in this article.
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Old 09-03-2008, 05:33 PM   #57
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How do you explain Belichick's LOSING record in Cleveland?
He doesn't have one now does he? Herm just continues downhill. If Herm is above average where is average? 20 games under .500? Even you should know better than that.
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Herman ****ing Edwards sucks ass, but not for the reasons cited in this article.
Dis man speaks 'da troof.
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I still blame Carl Peterson for not having a plan or drafting a LT & RG while big Willie & Will Shields were playing. He had plenty of time to prepare for those two to retire. Good or elite Franchise retool not rebuild. Carl Peterson imo never wanted a youth movement but uses it as a cruch now for excuses.
I blame Lamar Hunt for allowing Carl to stay on and conntinue to do the same things, year after year, after they had already failed, over and over.
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He come all the Herm defenders crying about Willie Roaf Retiring...
I have been making the same point as this article for 3 years. You are right, the offense would have stayed #1 if Willie Roaf had not retired. Herm should carry no blame.
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