Chiefs Simms and Rattay headed to KC for workout - Page 2

JuicesFlowing · 09-08-2008, 04:13 PM

Monday Update 9/8
September 8, 2008 - Bob Gretz |

From the Truman Sports Complex

NFL veteran quarterbacks Chris Simms and Tim Rattay should be headed to Kansas City Monday evening and they are expected to workout for the Chiefs sometime on Tuesday.

Right now, it appears that QB Brodie Croyle will miss two to four weeks with the shoulder injury he suffered on Sunday in Foxboro against the Patriots. That leaves the Chiefs with no option other than to sign a quarterback to help them.

Both Simms and Rattay were rumored to be at the top of the list in New England for the Patriots to step onto their roster for the injured Tom Brady. But Chiefs sources say both quarterbacks left Foxboro without being offered a deal. It sounds like the Patriots must have something else working behind the scenes.

The Patriots announced on Monday afternoon that Brady will undergo sugery and is lost for the season. They placed him on the injured reserve list.

Simms is 6-4, 220 pounds, 28-year old former third-round draft choice of Tampa Bay in the 2003 NFL Draft out of the University of Texas. He’s not played in a regular season game since the third week of the 2006 season, when he suffered a spleen injury. Ultimately, he underwent a splenectomy and missed the rest of the ‘06 and the whole ‘07 season. He did play in the most recent pre-season for the Bucs, completing 19 of 30 passes for 155 yards, no TDs and one INT. He was sacked five times.

Overall with the Bucs, he played in 19 games, starting 15 and completed 59.1 percent of his passes for an average of 6.27 yards per attempt, with 12 TD passes and 17 INTs. That’s a passer rating of 71.2

Rattay is 6-0, 200 pounds, 31 years old and a veteran of nine years in the NFL. He was a seventh-round choice of San Francisco in the 2000 NFL Draft out of Louisiana Tech. He spent six seasons with the Niners, two years in Tampa Bay and part of last season with Arizona. He went to training camp in 2007 with Tennessee.

He’s played in 40 games, with 18 starts, completing 60.5 percent of his passes, for an average of 6.8 yards per attempt with 31 TDS and 23 INTs. That’s a career passer rating of 81.9.

The Chiefs are not interested in bringing back David Greene, who was with them at the end of last season.

JBucc · 09-08-2008, 04:20 PM

Sign both and dump Hutard and Thigpen.

Sure-Oz · 09-08-2008, 04:21 PM

Odds if one of these guys sign they dethrone huard?

I assume it wouldn't take long to learn the run run pass offense

FAX · 09-08-2008, 04:22 PM

Bring 'em in!!

Cast off quarterbacks are all over the place. In the R2P2 scheme, we'll need about 10 of 'em.

FAX

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Here is my concern with Simms, he is left handed. You guys can figure out the rest pretty easy.

****.

I completely forgot.

Wouldn't be an issue if they'd get their heads out of their asses and get Taylor on the field...

**dirk digler** · 09-08-2008, 04:23 PM

I think signing Simms is a no-brainer. He is alot better QB than Croyle is IMHO.

Micjones · 09-08-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

****.

I completely forgot.

Wouldn't be an issue if they'd get their heads out of their asses and get Taylor on the field...

You really think it's that simple?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2008, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBucc

Sign both and dump Hutard and Thigpen.

No shit.

Can't take very long to learn a playbook that consists of:

Chapter 1:

Handoff right.

Handoff left.

WR screen right.

WR screen left.

Chapter 2:

The art of the draw on 3rd and 7.

Chapter 3:

Self Preservation, written by Damon Huard

"The trick is to go down BEFORE the defense gets to you..."

**The Franchise** · 09-08-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No shit.

Can't take very long to learn a playbook that consists of:

Chapter 1:

Handoff right.

Handoff left.

WR screen right.

WR screen left.

Chapter 2:

The art of the draw on 3rd and 7.

Chapter 3:

Self Preservation, written by Damon Huard

"The trick is to go down BEFORE the defense gets to you..."

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2008, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Micjones

You really think it's that simple?

You really think it's that difficult?

I can tell you this:

There's NO WAY the OL gets WORSE by playing Taylor.

And the benefits of getting him some valuable playing time?

No-brainer.

TRR · 09-08-2008, 04:27 PM

Honestly, I would sign Chris Simms, and start him on Sunday against the Raiders. I know that sounds outlandish, but you never know what a QB like Simms can bring. We know what Huard has, and we know that Croyle can't stay on the field.

As long as Simms is in shape, I would jam the playbook down his throat, and let the kid play. This team isn't going anywhere. Let's at least try to develop a decently young QB to at least be a backup to whoever the future starter is. Right now, KC doesn't have a decent backup or starter on the roster.

DJ's left nut · 09-08-2008, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Here is my concern with Simms, he is left handed. You guys can figure out the rest pretty easy.

Yup, my first thought as well.

That said, Simms is still only 28. He actually has a possibility of making this 'his' team should he perform.

Stationary RT or no, that has to appeal to him a little bit.

Micjones · 09-08-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

You really think it's that difficult?

I'm not sure that a Tackle sliding over is ever a walk in the park. Unless he's an uber-athletic player like Branden Albert. I'm not sure that Taylor's shown his worth at ANY position yet. He's played well in spot duty, but we haven't seen enough yet to know.

I'm all for him getting valuable playing experience as well, but I don't think Simms is the right guy with another unknown at RT.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-08-2008, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yup, my first thought as well.

That said, Simms is still only 28. He actually has a possibility of making this 'his' team should he perform.

Stationary RT or no, that has to appeal to him a little bit.

Yep.

This is the best chance he's going to get to be a starter again anytime soon.

The sad part is, they'll drop Thigpen, not Huard.

Deberg_1990 · 09-08-2008, 04:29 PM

We should have signed Leftwich months ago....

Silock · 09-08-2008, 04:29 PM

I wanted us to bring in Simms this past offseason.

09-08-2008, 04:13 PM
JuicesFlowing Losing with passion. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oblivion Casino cash: $10004925	Simms and Rattay headed to KC for workout Monday Update 9/8 September 8, 2008 - Bob Gretz \| From the Truman Sports Complex NFL veteran quarterbacks Chris Simms and Tim Rattay should be headed to Kansas City Monday evening and they are expected to workout for the Chiefs sometime on Tuesday. Right now, it appears that QB Brodie Croyle will miss two to four weeks with the shoulder injury he suffered on Sunday in Foxboro against the Patriots. That leaves the Chiefs with no option other than to sign a quarterback to help them. Both Simms and Rattay were rumored to be at the top of the list in New England for the Patriots to step onto their roster for the injured Tom Brady. But Chiefs sources say both quarterbacks left Foxboro without being offered a deal. It sounds like the Patriots must have something else working behind the scenes. The Patriots announced on Monday afternoon that Brady will undergo sugery and is lost for the season. They placed him on the injured reserve list. Simms is 6-4, 220 pounds, 28-year old former third-round draft choice of Tampa Bay in the 2003 NFL Draft out of the University of Texas. He’s not played in a regular season game since the third week of the 2006 season, when he suffered a spleen injury. Ultimately, he underwent a splenectomy and missed the rest of the ‘06 and the whole ‘07 season. He did play in the most recent pre-season for the Bucs, completing 19 of 30 passes for 155 yards, no TDs and one INT. He was sacked five times. Overall with the Bucs, he played in 19 games, starting 15 and completed 59.1 percent of his passes for an average of 6.27 yards per attempt, with 12 TD passes and 17 INTs. That’s a passer rating of 71.2 Rattay is 6-0, 200 pounds, 31 years old and a veteran of nine years in the NFL. He was a seventh-round choice of San Francisco in the 2000 NFL Draft out of Louisiana Tech. He spent six seasons with the Niners, two years in Tampa Bay and part of last season with Arizona. He went to training camp in 2007 with Tennessee. He’s played in 40 games, with 18 starts, completing 60.5 percent of his passes, for an average of 6.8 yards per attempt with 31 TDS and 23 INTs. That’s a career passer rating of 81.9. The Chiefs are not interested in bringing back David Greene, who was with them at the end of last season.
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TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9450185	Honestly, I would sign Chris Simms, and start him on Sunday against the Raiders. I know that sounds outlandish, but you never know what a QB like Simms can bring. We know what Huard has, and we know that Croyle can't stay on the field. As long as Simms is in shape, I would jam the playbook down his throat, and let the kid play. This team isn't going anywhere. Let's at least try to develop a decently young QB to at least be a backup to whoever the future starter is. Right now, KC doesn't have a decent backup or starter on the roster.
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