Chiefs Matt Stafford - Page 7

B_Ambuehl · 09-27-2008, 11:15 PM

I'd go ahead and scratch his name off the list. He's another Kyle Boller at best. He has an arm but doesn't have the inherent mental processing skills needed. He totally locks in on his first read and completely falls apart when that doesn't work out. UGA has a receiving corp that rivals that of some NFL teams so he'll have impressive stats, but Croyle actually has a lot more going for him as an NFL quarterback.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Miss it?

Hell, I'm betting we don't even know that there is a boat.

MLB, FTL!!!

milkman · 09-28-2008, 08:55 AM

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MLB, FTL!!!

Middle Linebacker, for the loss?

mylittlepony · 09-28-2008, 09:03 AM

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No doubt. But it's definite proof that even if Williams was the best athlete, and had the highest grade, he really wasn't the best player relative to total impact on the team.

Im sure they are bawling their eyes out over the 14 sack season he had last year.

Gravedigger · 09-28-2008, 09:06 AM

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Personally I see alot of Jay Cutler in Matt Stafford, and a little Carson Palmer.

I agree alot in this, he can make it rain, he can throw the ball 65 yards while rolling out on his back foot and have it be accurate. If anything last night proved is that he can run the 2 minute drill with his arm better than any other QB in college. Georgia had soooooo many penalties last night compared to Alabama, and the ONE INTERCEPTION that Stafford had wasn't even his fault, the reciever Green (Freshman who can supposedly rival most NFL recievers) dropped the ball considerably. There were so many dropped passes and penalties that Stafford had to continue throwing, he couldn't rely on Knowshon Moreno anymore. And when he was throwing that ball in the second half he rocketed that ball in and in most cases his recievers just couldn't catch it or couldn't hold onto it. Outside of the kickoff return for a TD Georgia owes Matt Stafford the remaining 23 points of their score cause it was all him. Penalties, sloppy defense, and dropped passes are what cost Georgia the game last night, NOT Matt Stafford.

Brock · 09-28-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

Im sure they are bawling their eyes out over the 14 sack season he had last year.

The question was "Do you think the Texans would still draft him over Cutler?"

mylittlepony · 09-28-2008, 09:12 AM

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The question was "Do you think the Texans would still draft him over Cutler?"

Jay Cutler was a top 10 QB in what QB category last year?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

Jay Cutler was a top 10 QB in what QB category last year?

I didn't realize that franchises played games in "last year".

**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2008, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

Im sure they are bawling their eyes out over the 14 sack season he had last year.

You're missing the point.

He could have 20 sacks, and he will never impact the game like a stud QB would.

Brock · 09-28-2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

Jay Cutler was a top 10 QB in what QB category last year?

Jay Cutler will be a top 10 QB for the NEXT 10 YEARS most likely. Are you seeing it yet?

mylittlepony · 09-28-2008, 09:19 AM

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I didn't realize that franchises played games in "last year".

Oh, "what have you done for me lately?"

Cool Mario Williams has 2 sacks in 2 games so far.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2008, 09:23 AM

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Oh, "what have you done for me lately?"

Cool Mario Williams has 2 sacks in 2 games so far.

I'm sure that is as much of an impact as 8 touchdown passes and almost 1000 yards from scrimmage.

Gravedigger · 09-28-2008, 09:32 AM

Here's the way I see the QB's:

Sanchez- Flavor of the week, no better than Matt Cassell in my mind, maybe some better physical aspects but all I see is ego. He might be better than what we have but he's not someone you can build a franchise around.

Freeman- No. Everyone I talk to says he reminds me of JaMarcus Russell... in case anyone has noticed that doesn't mean a good thing. JaMarcus Russell was a great passer in college but with the Raiders he's a joke, the Raiders were more of a pass efficient team under Kerry Collins than they are under JaMarcus, if the Raiders run game didn't have McFadden they wouldn't have beaten us like that... well if we didn't start Thigpen too but you get my drift. Josh Freeman is just physical, that's all people are drooling about, but that doesn't mean he's a good quarterback.

Bradford- I'd take him with a top Olineman like Oher, but the way people are talking is that its gonna be a heavy QB first round unlike last year with only Ryan and Flacco, so I don't think we can get both. He's the smartest quarterbacks with the best decision making but without the right system I don't think he can be that Peyton Manning. Also Alex Smith was the most intelligent quarterback and best decision maker and now he's sitting and second to some guy you've never really heard of and Aaron Rodgers, which is playing almost as well as Favre did with that Packers organization. Bradford could be a very good QB but if he goes to the Lions I dont think he'll get anywhere.

Stafford- Yes he can make mistakes, he can stare down a reciever every now and then but look at his throwing ability. Every QB in college can throw the ball 50 or 60 yards in a hail-mary type fashion, but Stafford ZINGS, ROCKETS, BULLETS that pass. Every single one of his passes has enough velocity on it to kill small children and cheerleaders who are foolish enough to get in its path. Here in KC we don't need a person who can hand off the ball with little passing ability, or else we'd have Huard. We don't need a QB with amazing physical traits, of that of a TE, but can't make good decisions. We don't need need a premadonna from USC who is in his first real year of starting as a QB and just happens to have a good record against half-ass teams in a USC system that made Matt Leinart look good. We need a gunslinger, we need a guy who will take a ****in chance, who we can say he might have thrown it into double coverage but he got it there before the coverage could close. We need a guy who will reenergize the franchise and put fans in the stands again. We need an Elway, we need a Palmer, we need a Manning, and we need a Cutler. He's the best prospect coming out of college for the next 3 years it seems. This is what we need, and if there is a great draft pick that we can get right now to lead our team with excitement,electricity, and the best arm we've seen in quite some time. My friends, we need Matt Stafford.

mylittlepony · 09-28-2008, 09:34 AM

He played Oakland who the Chiefs threw on for crying out loud. New Orleans who has what both their starters injured and still arnt considdered a good defence. And SD who are second to last against the pass. Give me a break. The guy has a cushy start and you crown him.

Either way he wasnt the third QB picked showing what a crapshoot the draft really is. But not basing your pick of who is the best athlete is how you end up with Vince Young or Reggie Bush instead of a stud like Mario Williams.

Brock · 09-28-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mylittlepony

Either way he wasnt the third QB picked showing what a crapshoot the draft really is. But not basing your pick of who is the best athlete is how you end up with Vince Young or Reggie Bush instead of a stud like Mario Williams.

Wrong. You end up with Vince Young by not listening to your coaches and not doing your homework. Nobody's saying Williams isn't a great player, but he isn't going to have the same impact that Cutler will likely have over the next decade.

BigVE · 09-28-2008, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Here's the way I see the QB's:

Sanchez- Flavor of the week, no better than Matt Cassell in my mind, maybe some better physical aspects but all I see is ego. He might be better than what we have but he's not someone you can build a franchise around.

Freeman- No. Everyone I talk to says he reminds me of JaMarcus Russell... in case anyone has noticed that doesn't mean a good thing. JaMarcus Russell was a great passer in college but with the Raiders he's a joke, the Raiders were more of a pass efficient team under Kerry Collins than they are under JaMarcus, if the Raiders run game didn't have McFadden they wouldn't have beaten us like that... well if we didn't start Thigpen too but you get my drift. Josh Freeman is just physical, that's all people are drooling about, but that doesn't mean he's a good quarterback.

Bradford- I'd take him with a top Olineman like Oher, but the way people are talking is that its gonna be a heavy QB first round unlike last year with only Ryan and Flacco, so I don't think we can get both. He's the smartest quarterbacks with the best decision making but without the right system I don't think he can be that Peyton Manning. Also Alex Smith was the most intelligent quarterback and best decision maker and now he's sitting and second to some guy you've never really heard of and Aaron Rodgers, which is playing almost as well as Favre did with that Packers organization. Bradford could be a very good QB but if he goes to the Lions I dont think he'll get anywhere.

Stafford- Yes he can make mistakes, he can stare down a reciever every now and then but look at his throwing ability. Every QB in college can throw the ball 50 or 60 yards in a hail-mary type fashion, but Stafford ZINGS, ROCKETS, BULLETS that pass. Every single one of his passes has enough velocity on it to kill small children and cheerleaders who are foolish enough to get in its path. Here in KC we don't need a person who can hand off the ball with little passing ability, or else we'd have Huard. We don't need a QB with amazing physical traits, of that of a TE, but can't make good decisions. We don't need need a premadonna from USC who is in his first real year of starting as a QB and just happens to have a good record against half-ass teams in a USC system that made Matt Leinart look good. We need a gunslinger, we need a guy who will take a ****in chance, who we can say he might have thrown it into double coverage but he got it there before the coverage could close. We need a guy who will reenergize the franchise and put fans in the stands again. We need an Elway, we need a Palmer, we need a Manning, and we need a Cutler. He's the best prospect coming out of college for the next 3 years it seems. This is what we need, and if there is a great draft pick that we can get right now to lead our team with excitement,electricity, and the best arm we've seen in quite some time. My friends, we need Matt Stafford.

Bradford is a Sophomore so he is a non issue for next years draft. *edit* (he may be a redshirt Soph, if so he would be eligible) If eligible I like him. I would lean towards Stafford head to head but would be happy with either one of these guys in a KC uni.

Sanchez: I agree pretty much...he is average at best IMO.

Freeman: PUH leeze...no thanks. Never. Nope.

IF we pick QB early in next years draft Stafford is the ONLY guy worthy of being picked before round 3 if Bradford does not come out of college early.

P.S. Just because Stafford has a cannon for an arm doesn't mean much...Brody can rifle the ball too and it hasn't done him much good.

09-27-2008, 11:15 PM
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9705405	Matt Stafford I'd go ahead and scratch his name off the list. He's another Kyle Boller at best. He has an arm but doesn't have the inherent mental processing skills needed. He totally locks in on his first read and completely falls apart when that doesn't work out. UGA has a receiving corp that rivals that of some NFL teams so he'll have impressive stats, but Croyle actually has a lot more going for him as an NFL quarterback.
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09-28-2008, 09:32 AM	#102
Gravedigger Plays to win the game! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $6493101	Here's the way I see the QB's: Sanchez- Flavor of the week, no better than Matt Cassell in my mind, maybe some better physical aspects but all I see is ego. He might be better than what we have but he's not someone you can build a franchise around. Freeman- No. Everyone I talk to says he reminds me of JaMarcus Russell... in case anyone has noticed that doesn't mean a good thing. JaMarcus Russell was a great passer in college but with the Raiders he's a joke, the Raiders were more of a pass efficient team under Kerry Collins than they are under JaMarcus, if the Raiders run game didn't have McFadden they wouldn't have beaten us like that... well if we didn't start Thigpen too but you get my drift. Josh Freeman is just physical, that's all people are drooling about, but that doesn't mean he's a good quarterback. Bradford- I'd take him with a top Olineman like Oher, but the way people are talking is that its gonna be a heavy QB first round unlike last year with only Ryan and Flacco, so I don't think we can get both. He's the smartest quarterbacks with the best decision making but without the right system I don't think he can be that Peyton Manning. Also Alex Smith was the most intelligent quarterback and best decision maker and now he's sitting and second to some guy you've never really heard of and Aaron Rodgers, which is playing almost as well as Favre did with that Packers organization. Bradford could be a very good QB but if he goes to the Lions I dont think he'll get anywhere. Stafford- Yes he can make mistakes, he can stare down a reciever every now and then but look at his throwing ability. Every QB in college can throw the ball 50 or 60 yards in a hail-mary type fashion, but Stafford ZINGS, ROCKETS, BULLETS that pass. Every single one of his passes has enough velocity on it to kill small children and cheerleaders who are foolish enough to get in its path. Here in KC we don't need a person who can hand off the ball with little passing ability, or else we'd have Huard. We don't need a QB with amazing physical traits, of that of a TE, but can't make good decisions. We don't need need a premadonna from USC who is in his first real year of starting as a QB and just happens to have a good record against half-ass teams in a USC system that made Matt Leinart look good. We need a gunslinger, we need a guy who will take a ****in chance, who we can say he might have thrown it into double coverage but he got it there before the coverage could close. We need a guy who will reenergize the franchise and put fans in the stands again. We need an Elway, we need a Palmer, we need a Manning, and we need a Cutler. He's the best prospect coming out of college for the next 3 years it seems. This is what we need, and if there is a great draft pick that we can get right now to lead our team with excitement,electricity, and the best arm we've seen in quite some time. My friends, we need Matt Stafford.
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09-28-2008, 09:34 AM	#103
mylittlepony Starter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Casino cash: $10005855	He played Oakland who the Chiefs threw on for crying out loud. New Orleans who has what both their starters injured and still arnt considdered a good defence. And SD who are second to last against the pass. Give me a break. The guy has a cushy start and you crown him. Either way he wasnt the third QB picked showing what a crapshoot the draft really is. But not basing your pick of who is the best athlete is how you end up with Vince Young or Reggie Bush instead of a stud like Mario Williams.
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