Herm to stick with Huard when Brodie comes back?

[Sure-Oz]

Brodie Croyle-QB-Chiefs Oct. 1 - 4:40 pm et

Chiefs coach Herm Edwards wouldn't commit Wednesday to Brodie Croyle retaking his starting job when he returns from a separated throwing shoulder.
"We'll talk about that when Brodie comes back," Edwards said, nodding his head repeatedly like it was a bad question. If KC was committed to winning this year, Damon Huard would likely continue to start, but that isn't the case. per rw

I just saw this on tv, and it looks like herm is waffling big time, and kept as it describes above, shaking off the question. It almost sounds like he would stick with Damon if he continues to play decent.

Croyle should be starting if he is healthy enough to play, period. He wouldn't say it's Croyle's job

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by FAX

We may be heading in the right direction but, so far as the quarterback position is concerned, that direction doesn't seem to be very clear.

FAX

It rarely IS clear in the NFL, until a guy steps up and takes the job.

In KC, the QB only has the job by default, usually injury.

It's extremely important for the young players to continue to play and grow together, regardless of the QB situation in 2008.

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The Chiefs need to take a QB in the first round of the 2009 draft. Period.

I don't agree with this yet. I want to see what Croyle does the rest of the year. And we know teams get in trouble when they make themselves believe that certain players are franchise QBs just because they need one.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing idiot.

Please explain to me and everyone else how the Chiefs are "scrapping the rebuild" by playing Huard, when there are

10 ROOKIES CONTRIBUTING AND STARTING FOR THE CHIEFS.


I'll be anxiously awaiting your stupid response.

Here's the template for Dane's every post:

[ curse words]

[CAPS LOCK ON typing]

[repeat]


and a no nothing dunce like you is complaining about someone being angry?

that's your ENTIRE shtick...you pot-calling-itself-a-dumbass dumbass

we set back our rebuild an evaluation of croyle for a year...for Huard...fact

True Fans - ahem...you - we glad we did so

Now, we're contemplating scrapping the playing time of our draft pick, our young qb, the guy HERM said was the QBOTF, the guy HERM spent all off season and preseason coaching and designing the offense around...THAT guy...we're just going to scrap it all to play a shitty career backup with no future anywhere in the NFL....all to get what, 3-5 wins? and ensure we can't draft an actual QB like Stafford next year...

and you cock smoking True Fans love it...this franchise saying "**** it" to the QB position and playing Damon Huard is the equivalent of 2 Girls 1 Cup and our fans want more...

so continue with post 12,003 in the style of [curse words] [ CAPS LOCK ON] [wheee]

you're still just a tard

[Brock]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Here's the template for Dane's every post:

[ curse words]

[CAPS LOCK ON typing]

[repeat]

You left out:

****.

JFC.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Here's the template for Dane's every post:

[ curse words]

[CAPS LOCK ON typing]

[repeat]


and a no nothing dunce like you is complaining about someone being angry?

that's your ENTIRE shtick...you pot-calling-itself-a-dumbass dumbass

we set back our rebuild an evaluation of croyle for a year...for Huard...fact

True Fans - ahem...you - we glad we did so

Now, we're contemplating scrapping the playing time of our draft pick, our young qb, the guy HERM said was the QBOTF, the guy HERM spent all off season and preseason coaching and designing the offense around...THAT guy...we're just going to scrap it all to play a shitty career backup with no future anywhere in the NFL....all to get what, 3-5 wins? and ensure we can't draft an actual QB like Stafford next year...

and you cock smoking True Fans love it...this franchise saying "**** it" to the QB position and playing Damon Huard is the equivalent of 2 Girls 1 Cup and our fans want more...

so continue with post 12,003 in the style of [curse words] [ CAPS LOCK ON] [wheee]

you're still just a tard

you don't need a template...all you do is bash Huard...I bet you wanted Thigpen to start over Huard, too!

You are a ****ing moron...I'll agree with Dane there...even if he is an asshole.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Brock

You left out:

****.

JFC.

This is the Expletive Planet now.

Just trying to conform.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

we set back our rebuild an evaluation of croyle for a year...for Huard...fact

Prove it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hootie

You are a ****ing moron...I'll agree with Dane there...even if he is an asshole.

Thanks.

I think.

[Chiefnj2]

By playing Huard the team accelarated the rebuild of every position except QB.

By playing Thigpen you accelerated the process of declaring him a bust and hurt the development of the rest of the team.

By playing Croyle you accelerate the conclusion that he can't stay healthy and hurt the development of the rest of the team.

[smittysbar]

Everyone one said that they would give Croyle this season and see what he shows. He was injured, but looked okay until then. When he comes back he HAS to be the starter, so the team can see if he "has it". If not we know what we need. If he gets hurt again I would say move on. But either way he needs the field for the rebuilding to continue.

To all of those that say Huard is the better QB don't know shit. Watched them both in TC and there is no comparison. Even with the rainbow passes he still isn't as accurate...baffling

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by smittysbar

To all of those that say Huard is the better QB don't know shit. Watched them both in TC and there is no comparison. Even with the rainbow passes he still isn't as accurate...baffling

Better QB?

More athletic? Yes.

Younger? Yes.

Better QB at this stage? No.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by FAX

It's funny to see what one win will do for the mood on ChiefsPlanet. It's true that one can make the argument that the team is headed in the right direction. We were last Sunday, that's for sure. Still, a young team is going to look good one week and absolutely horrible the next. It's fair to say that inconsistency is the only consistent attribute of a squad that's this inexperienced. And, that makes the quarterback decision even more convoluted. Does Downfield provide more consistency at a key position? Does his play help the other skill players develop faster? If so, why even consider starting Thiggy in Atlanta?

At this point, I would pay money to find out what modifications (if any) the coaches make to the game plan or in-game playcalling when Downfield is in the game as compared to Croyle. I know they have to forget about the boots and rollouts, but (although I can't prove it) it seems as though they allow Downfield to fling that dang rock a little more often and a little further. Not to mention the fact that they let him curl up in a little ball a ton more. Are these situational reads or calls or is Downfield simply more willing to take the risk whereas Croyle has been taught differently?

If so, I have to wonder what their overall approach to the quarterback position really is. I know they want to win as quickly as possible, but they can't do that if they don't get the ball downfield once in awhile. That, of course, depends on the run game, the pass protection, the WR routes and their ability to get open, timing with the receivers, etc. Were they waiting for the o-line to prove they can pass-protect? Were they waiting for the run game to develop? Were they waiting for Croyle to demonstrate he could handle the little stuff before cutting him loose? Were they simply a'skeered that Croyle would turn it over?

We may be heading in the right direction but, so far as the quarterback position is concerned, that direction doesn't seem to be very clear.

FAX

My uninformed opinion on why down field with Huard and not Croyle could boil down to 1) Croyle still hasn't adjusted to the speed of the NFL (especially with a weak O line) 2) Huard does a better job of audibles at the line 3) Herm is still trying to protect Croyle and has him on a tight leash due to his inexperience 4) Croyle has demonstrated that he is not what Herm thought he was.

That is all I got.

[RustShack]

I'm willing to give Croyle one last shot.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Now, we're contemplating scrapping the playing time of our draft pick, our young qb, the guy HERM said was the QBOTF, the guy HERM spent all off season and preseason coaching and designing the offense around...THAT guy...we're just going to scrap it all to play a shitty career backup with no future anywhere in the NFL....all to get what, 3-5 wins? and ensure we can't draft an actual QB like Stafford next year...

Can - the truth is that through all the design, pampering, coaching and trying to will Croyle to be the QBOTF was not done to Croyles strengths.
They took a down field passer with some weapons and lots of protection (in college) to a neutered, dumbed down, don't pass until we get behind, run the shit out of the ball offense. Unfortunately, that is better suited to Huard's style. He does it much better than Croyle.
I think you can assume that QB development, past, present and probably future is something this team has never been good at. Until there is a change in leadership and a different coach with a different idea on how to use a QB comes along, we are hosed as a team.

[smittysbar]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Better QB?

More athletic? Yes.

Younger? Yes.

Better QB at this stage? No.

Croyle is better. Huard does okay when we are running good (something Brodie has never had)

LJ had more yards than our starting QB last week. LJ has made this clown look decent. For Christ sakes he handed he ball to LJ a NFL record setting amount of times.