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jiveturkey · 01:35 PM

I know that we have a couple of gun experts on here. I'm seeking some advice.

The wife has finally agreed to allow a gun in the house and I'm looking for suggestions. It would have to be something that she can use as well (she's not very big).

I went to Bass Pro this afternoon and got some good info. I really liked the feel of the S&W 9mm.

I recently moved so I apparently have to get my driver's license straight before I can make a purchase. I'm thinking about heading to the Bullet Hole this weekend and shooting with some different options as well.

Any ideas?

MOhillbilly · 10-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Well, nothing's idiot proof under those circumstances - I found that out the hard way. Of course, my little incident was a false alarm. And it's much easier to get a shotgun out of someone's grasp than a handgun.

The two things I learned from my little misadventure were (1) keep the gun loaded with safety rounds, and (2) don't pull the hammer back on a revolver unless you actually see somebody you mean to shoot.

crazy talk.

Radar Chief · 10-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Heh, You are just lucky you didn't have to fire off a round when you borrowed my .454 Casull, when we were up in Alaska, the day you took off by yourself in the brush to go fishing. I had that thing loaded with Corbon big game rounds. It would have killed the bear or moose, but it feels like someone just hit your hand with a 5 pound hammer when you touch off that hand cannon with those particular rounds in it.

I briefly looked into getting a .454 Casull but every review I read called the recoil “punishing”. They said if a .44 Mag feels like a lot of recoil to you don’t bother with the Casull.
One auther recommended target practicing with .45 Long Colts, I guess it’ll shoot those also, then load the Casull rounds for go time. “When faced with a charging animal with large teeth and claws” they said, “you won’t be worried about the recoil.”

Otter · 10-03-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Heh, You are just lucky you didn't have to fire off a round when you borrowed my .454 Casull, when we were up in Alaska, the day you took off by yourself in the brush to go fishing. I had that thing loaded with Corbon big game rounds. It would have killed the bear or moose, but it feels like someone just hit your hand with a 5 pound hammer when you touch off that hand cannon with those particular rounds in it.

I don't remember if I told you this or not but I was in (ironiclly enough) Moose River swinging the fly rod and heard a snort coming from behind me. Looked over my shoulder and female elk was about 15' or 20' feet behind me. She must have waded in while my back was turned.

Guess where the gun was?

Front seet of the jeep because I didn't want to get it wet.

Tell you what, I don't know if it was the shock of the situaion or not but they are big animals. You could get two normal size horses and stand one on top of the other to match the height of a moose.

Thank God I brought a change of skivvies!

Frazod · 10-03-2008, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

crazy talk.

How so?

Radar Chief · 10-03-2008, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg193-e.htm

stood off the back porch with this model and would put rounds into the clothes line pole one after the other. maybe 35-40 yds away.

very very reliable,auto decock, easy take down for cleaning, concealable, enough round to stop a man. and you can get one for about $250.
dont let the price fool you, i cant speak highly enough about this firearm.

mom has one.

Dead link. Talk you into trying again?

Frazod · 10-03-2008, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

Oh, that's right.....I remember hearing a little something about that awhile back, I don't really know what happened though.

Guess I'll go do a little digging.

Here's the condensed version.

Burglar alarm goes off early in the morning. I am awakened from a dead sleep of about 4 hours, grab my revolver, and charge downstairs. When I see that the door that was tripped was to the garage, I assume someone's after my new car. That's when I pull back the hammer. It turns out to be a false alarm. I turn off the alarm, but when I go to uncock the gun, the hammer slips from beneath my thumb while I have the trigger pulled. BOOM. The gun was pointed down and away, and at the end of down and away was the wall to the pantry, the pantry door and the bottom of the refrigerator door.

MOhillbilly · 10-03-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

How so?

dont pull a gun unless youre going to shoot someone.dont show your trump card till the bitter end.
the only way you are going to get a shotgun away from someone is they dont intend to use it.see above.

MOhillbilly · 10-03-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Dead link. Talk you into trying again?

odd. this one worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._50

Radar Chief · 10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

odd. this one worked.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vz._50

That one worked, thanks.
So you like the .32 ACP round huh? I'll admit I never considered it.

triple · 10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

If you're looking for a home defense weapon, you might be better off going with a short, affordable Mossburg 20 guage. Buckshot won't go through walls and would be relatively easy to become familiar with. Look at the 870 and 500 models.

perfect advice. miles more stopping power too.

i think there's something psychological about seeing a long gun, or hearing the sound of a pump action being racked that may convince them they need to GTFO more than a pistol would.

Vegas_Dave · 10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

9mm is nice, 45 is better IMO. Glock makes my favorites.

My next purchase for conceal carry = Glock 36

I agree with the Glock. I use/carry a Glock 19C (9mm, 4" barrel, compensated) and it is easy to shoot and maintain. Very reliable, nicely balanced... I keep it loaded with hollow points so the 9mm disadvantage is not as big as a standard 9mm round.

Frazod · 10-03-2008, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

dont pull a gun unless youre going to shoot someone.dont show your trump card till the bitter end.
the only way you are going to get a shotgun away from someone is they dont intend to use it.see above.

If I round the corner at the base of my stairs, and some punk who just broke into my house is waiting for me with a gun drawn, I'll have my gun drawn already. Otherwise, the bitter end might just come while I'm pulling it out. And if I have a shotgun, he'll see the barrel first and grab it. Maybe he won't yank it out of my hands, but he'll definitely fuck me up for shooting it.

whatsmynameagain · 10-03-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Im a huge cock sucker

FYP

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triple · 10-03-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Hmmm? If the primary issue is some low life breaking into your house, a shotgun is the only way to go and as stated above, use 00 Buck. I just bought a Remington 870, with the 2 shot extension and an "18 barrel this week to add to the collection. If you are looking for a handgun, I really like Glocks. http://www.glock.com/english/index_pistols.htm I have a Glock 20, 10mm and love it, but that would likely be a little to much power for your wife, if she hasn't been around handguns. If it is more for protection, consider a Lasermax for the gun. Whatever you point the dot on, is where your bullet is going to go.
http://www.lasermax.com/

Ammo is also something you will want to consider. I have 4 high capacity, 15 round clips for my glock 20, all loaded with different bullet types and love the Corbon rounds. http://www.dakotaammo.net/

They make very hot rounds and are great for various self defense issues. The rounds are expensive (Not plinking rounds) compared to a Federal round, Remmington rounds, or something of that nature, but are what you want in there in a life or death situation. When I am in the back woods full of grizzly's, that's the only round I will have in the gun. The same goes for street, or home defense.

I hope that helps a little, I didn't get to deep into it and tried to keep it basic. Good luck.

For the home if you weren't going to go shotgun, a Glock 22 would probably be a good choice. I have a 27 that is my carry weapon and I like it a lot.

I usually have Federal HST or hydra-shock loaded.

**Bwana** · 10-03-2008, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I briefly looked into getting a .454 Casull but every review I read called the recoil “punishing”. They said if a .44 Mag feels like a lot of recoil to you don’t bother with the Casull.
One auther recommended target practicing with .45 Long Colts, I guess it’ll shoot those also, then load the Casull rounds for go time. “When faced with a charging animal with large teeth and claws” they said, “you won’t be worried about the recoil.”

The recoil of a normal .454 round isn't to bad, but with Corbon "hot" rounds in it, ouch!

You are 100% spot on with the 2nd part as well.

10-03-2008, 01:33 PM
jiveturkey Captain Kick Ass Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $9305197	Gun Advise I know that we have a couple of gun experts on here. I'm seeking some advice. The wife has finally agreed to allow a gun in the house and I'm looking for suggestions. It would have to be something that she can use as well (she's not very big). I went to Bass Pro this afternoon and got some good info. I really liked the feel of the S&W 9mm. I recently moved so I apparently have to get my driver's license straight before I can make a purchase. I'm thinking about heading to the Bullet Hole this weekend and shooting with some different options as well. Any ideas? Last edited by jiveturkey; 10-03-2008 at 01:35 PM.. Reason: reerunation
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