Portis says with Pacman situation blown out of proportion

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by StcChief

so the body guards can't keep him on the straight and narrow.... hmmm

Sounds like the Cowgirls have real issues and apparently they were NOT real clear with him on what he could/could not do....

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys. And how is a bodyguard suppossed to keep a grown man from drinking except to physically stop them, like maybe a fight?

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys. And how is a bodyguard suppossed to keep a grown man from drinking except to physically stop them, like maybe a fight?

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

Wrong.
Goodell determines the terms of his NFL probation. Playing in the NFL is a privelege and PacMan agrees to comply with the terms set forth by the league in exchange for the privelege of membership.

The grown man is supposed to keep himself from drinking. The bodyguards are there to save him from himself when possible and to shield him from the media and public eye when he ****s up.

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

The court determines the terms of his probation, not the Cowboys.

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.

There is mention of Jones and aclohol consumption on the police report.

Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.



Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

Goodell is not bound by nor does he follow the criminal courts when deciding on an action concerning an employee of the NFL.
Nobody needs to prove PacMan was drinking. If the appearance of impropriety is a condition upon which the NFL chooses to act then it is free to do so. In the case of moral terpitude, etc. the NFL is free to act.

The comish sets his own terms and conditions and metes out his own justice. This is how it goes when you accept money from someone in exchange for services rendered: you are expected to live up to the terms to which you agree.

Where do you people come up with this "oh if the police and courts can't prove he broke a law his employer can't take action"?

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Goodell is not bound by nor does he follow the criminal courts when deciding on an action concerning an employee of the NFL.

I'm fine with that, but if that's the case that should never have been a condition of his reinstatement. Deferring to the terms of his probation and then suspending him before it's been determined that he did violate his probation is unfair.

Nobody needs to prove PacMan was drinking. If the appearance of impropriety is a condition upon which the NFL chooses to act then it is free to do so. In the case of moral terpitude, etc. the NFL is free to act.

Was that a condition of his reinstatement? I'm scouring the web and all I've come up with is that the reinstatement stipulated he had to comply with the terms of his three year court-issued probation.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Micjones

I'm fine with that, but if that's the case that should never have been a condition of his reinstatement. Deferring to the terms of his probation and then suspending him before it's been determined that he did violate his probation is unfair.



Was that a condition of his reinstatement? I'm scouring the web and all I've come up with is that the reinstatement stipulated he had to comply with the terms of his three year court-issued probation.

I'm speculating here, apologies if I didn't make that clear.

I don't know if there were specific terms or if there was a blanket warning to the tune of "should it become public that you committed any actions to the detriment of the image of the NFL your reinstatement will be reconsidered"

Goodell is fully empowered and feeling it. He may be taking the SCOTUS definition of pornography on what is a suspendable offense.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.



Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

Jones was suspended 4 games for violating league conduct. A looming suspension will be determined if he violated part of his 3 year probation deal in GA, which is directly linked to Goodell's condition of reinstatement.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Micjones

You just made my point for me.

If Goodell's going to defer to the terms of his probation...
Jones should only be suspended AFTER his PO determines that he's violated his probation.



Police only speculated as to whether or not alcohol was involved.

I just looked at the report and saw nothing at all about alcohol being involved.

speculation went out the window when Jerry Jones came out and said pacman HAD been drinking at the party, in an ESPN interview no less