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Old 10-15-2008, 11:02 PM   #1
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Feel better?
That we only have to suffer for 11 more games?

You bet your ass.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:05 PM   #2
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That we only have to suffer for 11 more games?

You bet your ass.
hopefully it goes by quick
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:05 PM   #3
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That we only have to suffer for 11 more games?

You bet your ass.
I surely hope so, but at the same time, it does bother me that somebody would say publicly (when it's very obvious that the public already knows that they are doing a very shitty job) that they are doing a good job, despite being 1-4 and not showing up 3 of the 5 games.

I'm sorry, but it's like "sugarcoating" where I feel that "Hey, no, they are not doing a good job. In fact, they're doing a piss-poor job and unless there is actual improvement in 4 weeks, they're both gone."
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:15 PM   #4
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I surely hope so, but at the same time, it does bother me that somebody would say publicly (when it's very obvious that the public already knows that they are doing a very shitty job) that they are doing a good job, despite being 1-4 and not showing up 3 of the 5 games.

I'm sorry, but it's like "sugarcoating" where I feel that "Hey, no, they are not doing a good job. In fact, they're doing a piss-poor job and unless there is actual improvement in 4 weeks, they're both gone."
What good does that do, other than make the fans feel better about it?

Usually if the owner is making comments like that, it's at the press conference where he just announced he fired the staff.

There's nothing wrong with taking the high road publicly. We have no idea what's being said privately.

If I'm a coach thinking about this job come December/January, I look back at how Clark handled this and think "here's an owner I'd like to work for."

JMO.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:22 PM   #5
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What good does that do, other than make the fans feel better about it?

Usually if the owner is making comments like that, it's at the press conference where he just announced he fired the staff.

There's nothing wrong with taking the high road publicly. We have no idea what's being said privately.

If I'm a coach thinking about this job come December/January, I look back at how Clark handled this and think "here's an owner I'd like to work for."

JMO.

The bolded section, you are correct. However, a coach should also know that this is a business, and in order to survive in this business, you must win games.

Herm isn't winning any games, therefore, he should be publicly ridiculed.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:25 PM   #6
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The bolded section, you are correct. However, a coach should also know that this is a business, and in order to survive in this business, you must win games.

Herm isn't winning any games, therefore, he should be publicly ridiculed.
0-16 or 4-12, if the team is not progressing and the coaches are continually failing the players.. You have to make a change regardless....
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:27 PM   #7
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The bolded section, you are correct. However, a coach should also know that this is a business, and in order to survive in this business, you must win games.

Herm isn't winning any games, therefore, he should be publicly ridiculed.
As Clayton pointed out, that just doesn't happen.

The only form of public ridicule most owners are going to take part in is flat out firing the guy mid-season.

Clark has come right out and said that's not going to happen.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:29 PM   #8
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As Clayton pointed out, that just doesn't happen.

The only form of public ridicule most owners are going to take part in is flat out firing the guy mid-season.

Clark has come right out and said that's not going to happen.
Fine dont fire him mid season, this season is wasted anyway... But dont blow smoke up our asses and drive away more fans, because you dont want to offend you sorry HC or GM....
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Fine dont fire him mid season, this season is wasted anyway... But dont blow smoke up our asses and drive away more fans, because you dont want to offend you sorry HC or GM....
Drive away more fans?



He has his money for this year. He doesn't lose out when Joe the Plumber decides not to use his 4 tickets and parking pass every week. They've been paid for since May.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:30 PM   #10
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As Clayton pointed out, that just doesn't happen.

The only form of public ridicule most owners are going to take part in is flat out firing the guy mid-season.

Clark has come right out and said that's not going to happen.
And IMHO, he's making a mistake. How many more games does he need to see in order to finally convince himself that Herm isn't the answer?

I mean, I can tolerate Herm if the team was losing, yet at the same time, there ARE IMPROVEMENTS being done to the team.

Guess what, we're 1-4, and I have NOT SEEN ANY IMPROVEMENTS, outside of the secondary, from this football team.
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Old 10-15-2008, 11:34 PM   #11
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And IMHO, he's making a mistake. How many more games does he need to see in order to finally convince himself that Herm isn't the answer?

I mean, I can tolerate Herm if the team was losing, yet at the same time, there ARE IMPROVEMENTS being done to the team.

Guess what, we're 1-4, and I have NOT SEEN ANY IMPROVEMENTS, outside of the secondary, from this football team.
From reading between the lines, I'd say he's already convinced that Herm's not the answer.

But firing Herm NOW and promoting Gunther doesn't solve anything. He can't hire a new coach mid-season.
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