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Old 11-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #1
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Hamas really has a hard-on for athletic DEs. Manny Lawson, Vernon Gholston, and now Brian Orakpo.

He is exactly what we need though. And hopefully he doesn't disappoint like Gholston and Lawson.
When did I ever pimp Manny Lawson?

How can Gholston be a disappointment 8 games into his rookie year?
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:36 PM   #2
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When did I ever pimp Manny Lawson?

How can Gholston be a disappointment 8 games into his rookie year?
Was I wrong about Lawson? I thought you were one of the people here who wanted him.

I'm not calling Gholston a bust, but he can't even earn playing time. Jets fans aren't exactly pleased with him right now.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:41 PM   #3
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Was I wrong about Lawson? I thought you were one of the people here who wanted him.

I'm not calling Gholston a bust, but he can't even earn playing time. Jets fans aren't exactly pleased with him right now.
I was absolutely not pimping Lawson. I don't even know if I've mentioned him in more than five posts in this entire time I've been on the site.

You can't blame Gholston for the fact that their team was a year into a rebuild and then decided to sell out to win now, signing a bunch of aging and past their prime veterans, and giving the young guys no time to develop.

Gholston was not going to come in and have 15 sacks his first year, but if he is given time, he can be that kind of guy, especially in a system where he attacks, attacks, and attacks.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:44 PM   #4
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I was absolutely not pimping Lawson. I don't even know if I've mentioned him in more than five posts in this entire time I've been on the site.

You can't blame Gholston for the fact that their team was a year into a rebuild and then decided to sell out to win now, signing a bunch of aging and past their prime veterans, and giving the young guys no time to develop.

Gholston was not going to come in and have 15 sacks his first year, but if he is given time, he can be that kind of guy, especially in a system where he attacks, attacks, and attacks.
That's true enough. I was merely commenting on his production so far, a top 10 pick not being able to get on the field. I don't this its necessarily indicative of his future.
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Old 11-09-2008, 07:47 PM   #5
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That's true enough. I was merely commenting on his production so far, a top 10 pick not being able to get on the field. I don't this its necessarily indicative of his future.
Not being able to get on the field doesn't mean he is incapable of getting on the field, though. The Jets were reeruned making those moves in the offseason. Faneca, Pace, Favre, et. al. In three years, what is a 32 year old Calvin Pace going to give you, as opposed to a 26 year old Vernon Gholston who has 48 NFL games under his belt?

They are cutting off their nose to spite their face.
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