NFL Draft Well, We Probably Should Have a Brian Orakpo Thread... - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 07:08 PM

If we keep playing like this, we won't be in a position to draft Stafford. It's not good or bad, it is what it is.

With that being said, a genetic freak like Rak daddy would go a long way towards fixing the ills of this defense. He's not as long as Michael Johnson, but he's fast, explosive, and incredibly strong. Plus, he's taken boxing lessons, so Krumrie will love him with his ****tard slap-fight drill.

There could be worse selections in the 3-7 range where we will most likely choose.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Why LDE? Why not a RDE?

It was a typo.

Sure-Oz · 11-09-2008, 08:12 PM

Good god he is a beast

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

What did the Dolphins sell out? They signed a lot of free agents but none of them got huge deals. Parcells knows what he's doing and that team is on the way up. Long, Langford, Merling, D. Thomas are all good young players and that team is on the rise and will be very good in the years ahead.

Bill Parcells is a mediocre evaluator of talent. Look at his draft record.

He gave Jason Ferguson a five year deal for 21.5 mil, and he's 34 f'ing years old.

Zouk · 11-09-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Bill Parcells is a mediocre evaluator of talent. Look at his draft record.

He gave Jason Ferguson a five year deal for 21.5 mil, and he's 34 f'ing years old.

That contract was signed by Ferguson in 2005. The Dolphins traded for Ferguson and inherited that contract. They can cut him at any time for zero cost since the bonuses are on Dallas' books.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2003511

Parcells has had some bad picks, but he's certainly won everywhere. The Dolphins are well coached, have good young talent (Langford and Merling are playing great), and are definitely on the way up.

Basileus777 · 11-09-2008, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

That contract was signed by Ferguson in 2005. The Dolphins traded for Ferguson and inherited that contract. They can cut him at any time for zero cost since the bonuses are on Dallas' books.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2003511

Parcells gave Ferguson that contract when he was in Dallas.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-09-2008, 08:47 PM

What about his wingspan? If he's going to be an NFL RDE, it's important to have a long wingspan. Those are things Allen and Freeney have that Hali does not.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-09-2008, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

That contract was signed by Ferguson in 2005. The Dolphins traded for Ferguson and inherited that contract. They can cut him at any time for zero cost since the bonuses are on Dallas' books.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...len&id=2003511

Parcells has had some bad picks, but he's certainly won everywhere. The Dolphins are well coached, have good young talent (Langford and Merling are playing great), and are definitely on the way up.

I don't remember him winning anything that amounted to shit in either New York or Dallas.

**HemiEd** · 11-09-2008, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

It's sad we're commenting upon the huge need we have at DE, which is accurate, when we're starting a recent first and second rounder at both ends.

QFT

KevB · 11-09-2008, 09:01 PM

How about the difference between the pic when he first arrived to the freak he is now? Methinks he's spent a day or two in the weight room. A dominant pass rusher can make all the difference....

Zouk · 11-09-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't remember him winning anything that amounted to shit in either New York or Dallas.

He was very close to going to the Super Bowl with the Jets in 1998. That amounted to something.

suds79 · 11-09-2008, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

How many high draft picks and FA dollars will we need to spend on the defense for it to be decent?

I'm not making this comment to criticize Orakpo--I'm just sayin...

It's sad we're commenting upon the huge need we have at DE, which is accurate, when we're starting a recent first and second rounder at both ends.

Excellent point.

The main problem is with the drafting. Carl & Herm have thus far failed. Shocking I know.

This is the biggest indictment of Herm Edwards.

He's a defensive guy and yet we're spending 2nd rounders on guys like Pollard & McBride who we're now talking about shouldn't be or are not cutting it in the starting lineup.

If something there doesn't change, we'll just draft another Defensive player who we'll talk about replacing in 3 years at this rate.

milkman · 11-09-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

He was very close to going to the Super Bowl with the Jets in 1998. That amounted to something.

You know the old saying about horse shoes and hand grenades.

It's amazing how mediocrity is such a high level of achievement to KC fans.

Basileus777 · 11-09-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You know the old saying about horse shoes and hand grenades.

It's amazing how mediocrity is such a high level of achievement to KC fans.

Going to the AFC championship game is not nothing and its not mediocrity. Parcells didn't win a championship with the Jets or Cowboys, but he did build up those teams and make them legitimate contenders. People talk about Parcell's ability to build teams because that is what did in NJ and Dallas. If you want to criticize Parcells for not winning a Superbowl without Belichick that's one thing, but you can't really say he accomplished nothing.

Zouk · 11-09-2008, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You know the old saying about horse shoes and hand grenades.

It's amazing how mediocrity is such a high level of achievement to KC fans.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mediocre

**The Bad Guy** · 11-09-2008, 09:12 PM

So since he ALMOST won a SB with the Jets, that counts for something?

No wonder you love Herm.

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