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Old 11-20-2008, 12:53 PM  
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Trade LJ to N.E?

It looks like Larry Johnson's days in KC are over, too many bridges have been burnt and his relationship with the organization seems tarnished. With that said, how would a trade for him to New England sound for a second round pick in this years draft. It seems logical because:


KC has Jamaal Charles and Kolby Smith

NE has been known to take chances on players (i.e. Randy Moss, Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon)

KC is young and rebuilding so draft picks are very valuable

NE has San Diego's 2nd round pick in 2009

Laurence Maroney has not been able to carry the load for a whole season and would benefit from a joint backfield like in college (Marion Barber)
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:42 PM   #16
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That NE learns from their mistakes?
Didn't New England win a Super Bowl the year they got Dillon?
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:56 PM   #17
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Make NE better? Fugg no! Trade him to the NFC.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:00 PM   #18
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Didn't New England win a Super Bowl the year they got Dillon?
Dillon cared about winning.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:02 PM   #19
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They gave up a 4th for Randy ****ing Moss. LJ is worth a 5th or a 6th.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:06 PM   #20
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The guy is worth about a six of old Mill in trade value right now.
Then they should get the 6er while its still fresh.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:07 PM   #21
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right now lj is worth a can of baked beans
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:11 PM   #22
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right now lj is worth a can of baked beans
so he's been devalued from the 6 pack of Old Mill........

LJ stock value in free fall.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:21 PM   #23
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Conditional 6th that could become a 5th is the absolute most a team with give up for an almost 30 year-old running back with off the field issues.

I think it's more likely he ends up in Dallas, Tampa Bay or maybe Cleveland.
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Old 11-20-2008, 02:44 PM   #24
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right now lj is worth a can of baked beans
It depends on what brand you're talking about, Bush's are pretty pricey for beans. Probably Van De Kamps.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:13 PM   #25
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Didn't New England win a Super Bowl the year they got Dillon?
They sure did.

This organization can't afford to get emotional with their handling of Johnson.
They need to get as much as they can for him.

He can still produce in the NFL. And he could easily go to another team and have a 1,300-yard 15 TD season.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:20 PM   #26
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NE is getting productive games out of a cheap undrafted player named Benjarvus Green-Ellis why would they trade for a large contract?
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:28 PM   #27
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Make NE better? Fugg no! Trade him to the NFC.

Interesting. That statement indicates that LJ is still a productive player. I agree.

Further I don't think it is a given that we trade or cut LJ. I know he’s got issues and a lot of proving to do. However, we have limited draft choices this year and a lot of holes to fill (DE, MLB, OLB, OG, OT, QB). Cutting LJ creates another hole to fill. Kolby Smith has now missed time due to injury in both of his seasons. Charles isn’t big enough to handle the every down load. If Herm has scared LJ straight, he could be a valuable back for us. The smart GM move would be to go after his signing bonus and guaranteed money because of his suspension. My understanding is that the Chiefs have the right to do so. That I think is LJ’s biggest fear, losing that money. Through the process of going after that money, the Chiefs could seek to restructure his deal and give him the opportunity to put that money back into his pocket through incentives (meetings on time, staying out of trouble, on the field production, blocking).

When we have multiple holes to fill, adding another hole is not a smart play.
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:29 PM   #28
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Interesting. That statement indicates that LJ is still a productive player. I agree.

Further I don't think it is a given that we trade or cut LJ. I know he’s got issues and a lot of proving to do. However, we have limited draft choices this year and a lot of holes to fill (DE, MLB, OLB, OG, OT, QB). Cutting LJ creates another hole to fill. Kolby Smith has now missed time due to injury in both of his seasons. Charles isn’t big enough to handle the every down load. If Herm has scared LJ straight, he could be a valuable back for us. The smart GM move would be to go after his signing bonus and guaranteed money because of his suspension. My understanding is that the Chiefs have the right to do so. That I think is LJ’s biggest fear, losing that money. Through the process of going after that money, the Chiefs could seek to restructure his deal and give him the opportunity to put that money back into his pocket through incentives (meetings on time, staying out of trouble, on the field production, blocking).

When we have multiple holes to fill, adding another hole is not a smart play.
Moving LJ doesn't create a hole....
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:34 PM   #29
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No way he goes for a second. He's not worth it.
Honestly, NE is one of the few teams that would part for an extra second... The only problem I see, is they would not for one sole reason.. LJ sucks at blocking so they would have to take him out on passing downs.. NE probably has players in mind that can help better protect Brady for next year then whiffing on blocks or blocking into their QB..
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Old 11-20-2008, 03:52 PM   #30
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someone yelled at me and said that LJ would never take another snap with the Chiefs.

i always hear people being full of shit ... i should really start bookmarking these things.
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