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Old 11-30-2008, 12:20 PM  
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4. Florida
5. USC
6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. TCU
12. Ball State
13. Cincinnati
14. Oklahoma State
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16. Georgia
17. Boston College
18. BYU
19. Oregon
20. Missouri
21. Michigan State
22. Northwestern
23. Pittsburgh
24. Florida State
25. Virginia Tech

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1. Alabama (107)
2. Florida (4)
3. Texas (1)
4. Oklahoma
5. USC
6. Penn State
7. Utah (1)
8. Texas Tech
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. Ball State
12. TCU
13. Cincinnati
14. Oklahoma State
15. Oregon
16. Georgia Tech
17. BYU
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1. Alabama (58)
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5. Southern California
6. Penn State
7. Utah
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16. Georgia Tech
17. Missouri
18. BYU
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25. Mississippi

AP
1. Alabama (62)
2. Florida (3)
3. Texas
4. Oklahoma
5. Southern California
6. Penn State
7. Utah
8. Texas Tech
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
11. TCU
12. Ball State
13. Cincinnati
14. Oklahoma State
15. Georgia Tech
16. Oregon
17. Georgia
18. Boston College
19. Missouri
20. BYU
21. Michigan State
22. Mississippi
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24. Northwestern
25. Oregon State

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Old 11-30-2008, 11:44 PM   #106
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It's pretty ridiculous that both teams playing for the Big 12 Championship both got beat by Texas.


And another Big 12 team with 1 loss that beat a #1, #9, and a #23, the #1 being Texas, that is getting no consideration at all.
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Old 11-30-2008, 11:58 PM   #107
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How's that? It was a 3-way tie. Texas beat OU, OU beat Texas Tech, Texas Tech beat Texas. There's no clear head to head because one is negated by the other head to head matchups. The Big 12 had agreed to let BCS standings decide in the even of a 3-way tie.

Had the shoe been on the other foot and OU won on the nuetral field, then got beat by Tech, while Tech got beat by Texas, but when it was all said and done Texas was going to the Big 12 championship game instead of OU, Texas would be defending the system instead of blasting it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:19 AM   #108
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How's that? It was a 3-way tie. Texas beat OU, OU beat Texas Tech, Texas Tech beat Texas. There's no clear head to head because one is negated by the other head to head matchups. The Big 12 had agreed to let BCS standings decide in the even of a 3-way tie.

Had the shoe been on the other foot and OU won on the nuetral field, then got beat by Tech, while Tech got beat by Texas, but when it was all said and done Texas was going to the Big 12 championship game instead of OU, Texas would be defending the system instead of blasting it.
I think the OU-Texas result is the best piece of evidence. I think Texas would beat OU in a rematch. Texas Tech can't complain because they weren't competitive against OU.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:45 AM   #109
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I think the OU-Texas result is the best piece of evidence. I think Texas would beat OU in a rematch. Texas Tech can't complain because they weren't competitive against OU.

Tech beat Texas, OU anhilated Tech, OU played Texas as their fist legit, non-gimmie game of the season. Since then OU has really come around and is playing some solid ball. I seriously doubt Texas could beat OU right now - even at Texas Stadium.
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Old 12-01-2008, 12:47 AM   #110
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My guess is that at the OU UT game at Dallas they sell 1/2 the stadium to each team. That makes it a neutral field. BS. The field is in Texas at the state fair.

Move the game to Texarkana (is that in Texas, if not Fayetville) and then call it a neutral field.

The point that no one is discussing is why is MU even playing. If they had any dignity they would concede (the Big 12 was exposed this year.)

The Big 12 Commish shoud step in and replace MU with Texas.
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My guess is that at the OU UT game at Dallas they sell 1/2 the stadium to each team. That makes it a neutral field. BS. The field is in Texas at the state fair.

Move the game to Texarkana (is that in Texas, if not Fayetville) and then call it a neutral field.

The point that no one is discussing is why is MU even playing. If they had any dignity they would concede (the Big 12 was exposed this year.)

The Big 12 Commish shoud step in and replace MU with Texas.
I agree that it's a a joke that MU is in the Championship game, but rules are rules and they need to be followed IMO.

Have you ever been to a UT/OU Game? The point is it's at a location between the two schools and not on one of the campuses. There is no decided advantage for either school.
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Tech beat Texas, OU anhilated Tech, OU played Texas as their fist legit, non-gimmie game of the season. Since then OU has really come around and is playing some solid ball. I seriously doubt Texas could beat OU right now - even at Texas Stadium.

OU was playing solid ball before UT ran all over them. The game was decided on the field at a neutral site. (FYI - site was picked by both schools years ago and first suggested by OU).

So TT beats UT at home at the last second, OU kills TT at home, and UT won ALL thier home games too. Big deal. When you're very good - you usually win at home. UT beat OU at a neutral site. They won easily. The game was decided on the field rather than by speculation. I seriously doubt OU could beat UT even if they played again.
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I agree that it's a a joke that MU is in the Championship game, but rules are rules and they need to be followed IMO.

Have you ever been to a UT/OU Game? The point is it's at a location between the two schools and not on one of the campuses. There is no decided advantage for either school.
Never been to a UT OU game. I spent some time in Austin and I know that when you are in Texas it is like you are in another country.

Not even California puts their state flag, map, logo, state bird etc on every chip bag, soda, beer etc

Dallas is in Texas and not even close to Norman. Not 1/2 way. OU's fault for agreeing I guess but since no one talks about it who I am to say in Cal.

I wish Or State would have lost to Oregon so SC could have re-matched Texas and won in the Fiesta Bowl. Now, we will have a bunch of bad Bowl games that won't be watchable.
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My guess is that at the OU UT game at Dallas they sell 1/2 the stadium to each team. That makes it a neutral field. BS. The field is in Texas at the state fair.

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My guess is that OU would'nt agree to the game "for the last how many years?" if they didn't agree if it was fair
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Nope. The BCS took another hit today.

College football is very much alive. Everyone is talking about it.
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Never been to a UT OU game. I spent some time in Austin and I know that when you are in Texas it is like you are in another country.

Not even California puts their state flag, map, logo, state bird etc on every chip bag, soda, beer etc

Dallas is in Texas and not even close to Norman. Not 1/2 way. OU's fault for agreeing I guess but since no one talks about it who I am to say in Cal.

I wish Or State would have lost to Oregon so SC could have re-matched Texas and won in the Fiesta Bowl. Now, we will have a bunch of bad Bowl games that won't be watchable.
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How's that? It was a 3-way tie. Texas beat OU, OU beat Texas Tech, Texas Tech beat Texas. There's no clear head to head because one is negated by the other head to head matchups. The Big 12 had agreed to let BCS standings decide in the even of a 3-way tie.

Had the shoe been on the other foot and OU won on the nuetral field, then got beat by Tech, while Tech got beat by Texas, but when it was all said and done Texas was going to the Big 12 championship game instead of OU, Texas would be defending the system instead of blasting it.
Just your opinion. Fact is it didn't happen as you're suggesting. TT wasn't even competitive at OU. UT was very competitive at TT. The point you're ignoring is the most compelling one in that UT easily beat OU.

I agree - rules are rules and they need to be followed so I understand and accept the fact that OU is playing for the Big 12 Championship. The fault is with the rankings in that UT should be ranked ahead of OU. They proved on the field, without any doubt, they were better than OU. How anyone can dispute this is laughable.

IMO - Harris and AP got it right...
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BCS
1. Alabama
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas
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6. Utah
7. Texas Tech
8. Penn State
9. Boise State
10. ohio state
Penn State/Boise State play-in game for #8 seed. (Screw #10.)

1. Bama v. 8. Penn/Boise (Yeah, it's Penn.)
2. OK v. 7. TX Tech
3. TX v. 6. Utah (God help them.)
4. USC v. 5. USC

Simple stuff. Carry the bracket forward.
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My guess is that OU would'nt agree to the game "for the last how many years?" if they didn't agree if it was fair
Yep. And few know that they first posed the site.
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