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Old 12-01-2008, 09:35 AM  
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What impact does having falling from #2 to #5 have on our draft?
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:57 PM   #136
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Have you ever watched USC play? Mays is a freaking stud. And all the Trojan defense players play smart and stay to the game plan. Hell I cant stand USC but I will give them credit when credit is due.
Nope I haven't watched USC play. That's why Im asking.
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Old 12-01-2008, 02:59 PM   #137
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You'd think that LSU would have stopped blitzing sooner, but it really didn't matter.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:00 PM   #138
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What if we got a good DE in free agency? Suggs?

I'd be happy with a Suggs, Mays and Spikes offseason.
i think we're going to drop some FA coin somewhere...there are certainly worse scenarios...
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:03 PM   #139
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Stafford is now a pipe dream because the NFL has become so saturated with awful teams.

3 years ago, teams that were 2-10 had a legit shot at the top spot. Now, we are the 5th worst team with just 2 wins.

With the 5 spot, we should grab the MLB from USC.

Orakpo and Johnson aren't elite ends. The big tackles are all LT's, and I'm 100% against moving Brendan Albert for some unknown rookie.

This defense needs someone who can fly to the football and create havoc. They also need a stud DE (which they have to try to get in free agency). This team hasn't had a long-term prospect at MLB since Donnie in 1997.

An ideal scenario for me would be Rey in the first, Duke Robinson in the 2nd.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:07 PM   #140
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one, of the many, reasons i want a high pick is so that we can have a shot at LB/ol that drops to the top of the second...there will be some serious talent and we can score again like we did with flowers...
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:08 PM   #141
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i think we're going to drop some FA coin somewhere...there are certainly worse scenarios...
Honestly I hope they drop coin on defense.

Have you seen some of the Defensive players available this year?

Peppers
Suggs
Haynesworth
B Berry
R Lewis
B Scott
Vilma
Dansby

All these guys are FAs. But I just can't see this team spending money on big name players. I have a feeling they won't spend.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:14 PM   #142
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And yes I think Taylor Mays will be one of the best players from the draft, but if we took him the board would meltdown.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:15 PM   #143
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What if we got a good DE in free agency? Suggs?

I'd be happy with a Suggs, Mays and Spikes offseason.
Suggs/Mays/Spikes would be a dream. If our D still stunk with Dorsey/Suggs/Mays/Spikes/DJ/Flowers then we might as well give up.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:15 PM   #144
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Honestly I hope they drop coin on defense.

Have you seen some of the Defensive players available this year?
Peppers - No
Suggs - Maybe
Haynesworth - No
B Berry - No
R Lewis - NO
B Scott - No
Vilma - Possibly
Dansby - No. DJ 2.0
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:15 PM   #145
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Honestly I hope they drop coin on defense.

Have you seen some of the Defensive players available this year?

Peppers
Suggs
Haynesworth
B Berry
R Lewis
B Scott
Vilma
Dansby

All these guys are FAs. But I just can't see this team spending money on big name players. I have a feeling they won't spend.
even though we're still a year away from competing (assuming everything goeas right), i think the sting of this year will cause Carl to react...they'll want some excitement which means FA....cross our fingers they get lucky this time
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:16 PM   #146
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This is one of the most ridiculous pieces of trash I've ever seen about evaluating a player.
Tell us how you really feel.
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Suggs/Mays/Spikes would be a dream. If our D still stunk with Dorsey/Suggs/Mays/Spikes/DJ/Flowers then we might as well give up.
It probably will, you know why? Because we have Gunther Cunningham. He'll find a way to make things suck.
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Honestly I hope they drop coin on defense.

Have you seen some of the Defensive players available this year?

Peppers
Suggs
Haynesworth
B Berry
R Lewis
B Scott
Vilma
Dansby

All these guys are FAs. But I just can't see this team spending money on big name players. I have a feeling they won't spend.
Bart Scott would be about the only one on that list that I would go after.
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Old 12-01-2008, 03:17 PM   #149
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Honestly I hope they drop coin on defense.

Have you seen some of the Defensive players available this year?

Peppers
Suggs
Haynesworth
B Berry
R Lewis
B Scott
Vilma
Dansby

All these guys are FAs. But I just can't see this team spending money on big name players. I have a feeling they won't spend.
We would be lucky for one of those names to hit the market... we would be even more lucky for one of them to even work out for the Chiefs.
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Highlight tapes are not a great way to judge talent, but we've seen this video a lot, so I'm breaking it down, play-by-play.

Overall thoughts: Georgia OL actually does a very good job in this highlight tape. Only two of 11 throws required Stafford to move around. one on the run to his strong throwing side, one just requiring a step up in the pocket. Is the LSU line that overrated, or the UGA line better than given credit for? Or a little of both, maybe?

Throw 1: Good protection (pro). Hits out well, throw a little high but possibly necessary (can't tell because of camera angle)
2: Good pro. Throw looks low, tough to tell for sure.
3: Good pro, slightly pressured but had time to read, set, deliver. Throw is high/inside, nice adjustment and catch by Massaquoi.
4: Good pro off play-action. Time to set, deliver, little sloppy moving weight forward. Hard to tell much due to poor camera work, other than the ball was thrown extremely hard. Could be low throw, could be good throw into spot only his receiver can reach.
5: Fade. Plenty of time. Underthrown a tad, a little too far to the middle of the field. Great play by receiver to prevent INT.
6: Impressive throw on run. Premium arm strength. little high, but OK.
7: Good pro, good throw on quick out (with coverage a yard or two off).
8: WR screen. easy throw, nothing to evaluate.
9: Enough pressure to force step up, plant, throw. Good pro inside to give him room to step up. Green beats CB by step or two, throw in stride, a smidge high (is it wobbling kind of funny, or is that the camera? Doesn't look like a true spiral).
10: Good pro/blitz pickup with 8 in box. Hits WIDE OPEN tight end.
11: Play-action, good protection. Green WIDE OPEN, no one withing five yards.
12: QB draw, good blocking, middle wide open.

So that's 12 plays. 11 throws.
8 throws any NFL prospect at QB should make. (1,2,3, 7,8,9,10,11)
One tough throw (6)
One bad throw (5)
One inconclusive throw (4 - video quality makes it impossible to judge).

The QB draw again was a play that any QB with wheels of any sort should execute. If you're mobile enough (pretty average speed/mobility required) for your team to call a QB draw, you're mobile enough to score there, easily.

It's a nice highlight tape, but it isn't a jaw-dropping, jizz-worthy tape as some seem to think...
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