Thigpen isn't good enough.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by suds79

Again people are calling him a rookie. He's not one.

So I'll rephrase. It was a 2nd year QB mistake.

Hate to be such a stickler but it really bugs me that people insist on calling him a rookie.... It's a lot easier to swallow the bonehead plays when they're "rookies" right?

He's a 2nd year player of which you certainly expect more from than rookies.

He's a 2nd year playing with no real gametime until this year. Hell, the rookies that started from the get go this year have more experience then he did becuase he has always been a 3rd qb playing with the scrubs.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

He's a 2nd year playing with no real gametime until this year. Hell, the rookies that started from the get go this year have more experience then he did becuase he has always been a 3rd qb playing with the scrubs.

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suds79

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

No. I would expect him to play like someone who never played in a real game. Thigpen threw a total of 6 passes last year and now is not even in the same offense we had last year.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No. I would expect him to play like someone who never played in a real game.

You're saying No you wouldn't expect more from the 5 year vet?

Okay.. We clearly view time in the league differently then.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suds79

You're saying No you wouldn't expect more from the 5 year vet?

Okay.. We clearly view time in the league differently then.

How can you expect much of anything from anyone who never played in a game? Regadless of how long they rode the bench or played on the practice squad?

I think what we view differently is what "time in the league" means.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think what we view differently is what "time in the league" means.

Agreed.

I think training camp, practice, meetings, film study, learning the playbook, years in and all that stuff accounts for some "time in the league" in helping make you better. You apparently do not.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by suds79

Agreed.

I think training camp, practice, meetings, film study, learning the playbook, years in and all that stuff accounts for some "time in the league" in helping make you better. You apparently do not.

You know, training camp, practice, meetings, film study, and learning the playbood does account to the 'time in the league' in helping making you better. But at the same time, you can't stimulate game situations in practice situations, because they both are completely different scenerios/situations.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suds79

Agreed.

I think training camp, practice, meetings, film study, learning the playbook, years in and all that stuff accounts for some "time in the league" in helping make you better. You apparently do not.

I understand what you are saying. But there is knowing what to do and then doing it. I would hope someone as you mention woul dnot run like Thigy did. But I can't say I would expect much better play though.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by suds79

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

I don't have a problem calling him a 2nd year QB. That's true. But I also want everybody to recongize that Tyler has played less than 16 games in his career. Therefore, 16 games = 1 year of experience of playing time.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Coach

I don't have a problem calling him a 2nd year QB. That's true. But I also want everybody to recongize that Tyler has played less than 16 games in his career. Therefore, 16 games = 1 year of experience of playing time.

Thigy has played in a total of 13 games and only 9 as a starter.

1 of those games he passed the ball 6 times.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by suds79

True. His gametime experience is little to none. No argument there.

But being in the game and learning the speed and type of play in the NFL certainly means something.

If you had a 5 year vet with no gametime experience to come off the bench, you'd expect more from him than if he was a rookie with no gametime experience right? Sure you would.

Same rule applies to Thigpen. Now is the difference smaller being only his 2nd year? You bet. But it's still different from being a rookie.

I just wish people would call him what he is. A 2nd year QB. That's all I'm saying.

I know what you are trying to say, thats why i just say he's hasnt even started a whole season.

This all takes time. I like what i see from the kid. He's one of the reasons why i watch it. he's fun to watch and i think he's improving week to week. Not one person in the NFL or any of us fans thought he would be the QB this year. Hell, i bet he didnt either. He got thrown into a inferno and imo is handling it. We were not even competitive until he came on the scene.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

I know what you are trying to say, thats why i just say he's hasnt even started a whole season.

I have no problem with that.