Chiefs Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help - Page 5

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7?

Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth?

Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs?

Do you hate wide receivers?

Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position?

Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14?

Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to?

Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant?

Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks?

Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager?

Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw?

Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense?

Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII?

Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft?

Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much?

Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need?

Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores?

Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure?

Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet?

Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator?

Do you think that reaction is safer than action?

Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us?

Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]?

Do you prefer tailgating to Championships?

Do you fear the unknown?

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

Do you believe that the run sets up the pass?

Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college?

Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage?

If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football.

Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge:

After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games.

If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately.

We're here to help.

Sincerely,

The ChiefsPlanet Clinic

FringeNC · 12-17-2008, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Do you thank spending decades wading through franchise QB contracts spent on, JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Cutler, Alex Smith, Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, David Carr, Joey Harrington, Michael Vick, Chad Pennington, Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper and Ryan Leaf is worth the chance to get the Manning brothers.

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think franchise QBs are drafted so much as they are developed. How many Pro Bowl QBs has Mike Martz been associated with?

Some staffs realize the importance of having a top QB in the playoffs, and attempt to develop them; other staffs hope that it's all luck once you get to the playoffs, and have game managers.

**SAUTO** · 12-17-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

I prescribe Hamas should be strapped to a chair with his eyes taped open. Not to be released until he has watched every Marvy Levy, John Mackovic, Paul Wiggin and Frank Ganz coached Chiefs game, back to back. Then, as a refresher, 3 years of Herm ****ing Edwards on FFWD.

10-6 will then seem like a cool evening breeze, after a hot summer day.

true that!!!

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think franchise QBs are drafted so much as they are developed. How many Pro Bowl QBs has Mike Martz been associated with?

Two? Marc Bulger and Kurt Warner.

Woo-hoo! He's a genius!

philfree · 12-17-2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Oh, what the hell. Let's go ahead and draft Schuler in the first. Oh, I mean Mirer. I mean Klingler. I mean Harrington. No wait, I mean Carr. DOH! I meant Leaf! Or...

I will forever maintain that a high #1 pick on a QB is the riskiest pick there is. I have watched so many fail. If that's what we do, well, I'll cross my fingers and hope for the best, but I don't agree that it's the wisest plan of attack.

I agree with that but the payoff could be huge. Which is why teams take the risk win they have the chance.

PhilFree

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think franchise QBs are drafted so much as they are developed. How many Pro Bowl QBs has Mike Martz been associated with?

Some staffs realize the importance of having a top QB in the playoffs, and attempt to develop them; other staffs hope that it's all luck once you get to the playoffs, and have game managers.

You're not really describing a franchise QB, then. In other words, do you think that there was a very good possibility that P. Manning, Elway, Marino, etc. would fail? That their superior talent wouldn't have ultimately won out?

Players like Green, Bulger, and Warner can be very nice system guys. These are players high-quality staffs can develop, and they're also players that can be ruined, completely.

We've had only system QB's in KC for the last, well, 20+ years. We need a franchise guy, and now we're drafting high enough that this *might* be a good opportunity to get one. Might.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-17-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think franchise QBs are drafted so much as they are developed.

Great quarterbacks are GREAT regardless.

John Elway, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, etc.

Sure, they make mistakes but no one needs to teach them the game or correct their mechanics or decision making skills.

If you draft a first round QB, he'd better be 90% "developed". Otherwise, you're wasting your time and the team's ability to compete.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Goddammit.

It's finals week.

I need someone that has a better chance of being cured.

I am sick of finals! tonight is the last ****ing night!

**SAUTO** · 12-17-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Great quarterbacks are GREAT regardless.

John Elway, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, etc.

Sure, they make mistakes but no one needs to teach them the game or correct their mechanics or decision making skills.

If you draft a first round QB, he'd better be 90% "developed". Otherwise, you're wasting your time and the team's ability to compete.

dane do you see any this year? in your opinion

FringeNC · 12-17-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You're not really describing a franchise QB, then. In other words, do you think that there was a very good possibility that P. Manning, Elway, Marino, etc. would fail? That their superior talent wouldn't have ultimately won out?

Players like Green, Bulger, and Warner can be very nice system guys. These are players high-quality staffs can develop, and they're also players that can be ruined, completely.

We've had only system QB's in KC for the last, well, 20+ years. We need a franchise guy, and now we're drafting high enough that this *might* be a good opportunity to get one. Might.

The numbers Warner put up were sick. It's all about being able to pass in the playoffs -- finding a QB who excels in the system you put him in. Sure, only a few QBs could excel in ALL, but a team only runs one system at a time.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We've had only system QB's in KC for the last, well, 20+ years. We need a franchise guy, and now we're drafting high enough that this *might* be a good opportunity to get one. Might.

Try over 35+ plus.

FringeNC · 12-17-2008, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Great quarterbacks are GREAT regardless.

John Elway, Joe Montana, Brett Favre, Dan Marino, Dan Fouts, etc.

Sure, they make mistakes but no one needs to teach them the game or correct their mechanics or decision making skills.

If you draft a first round QB, he'd better be 90% "developed". Otherwise, you're wasting your time and the team's ability to compete.

Is Kurt Warner not a great QB?

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I prescribe Hamas should be strapped to a chair with his eyes taped open. Not to be released until he has watched every Marvy Levy, John Mackovic, Paul Wiggin and Frank Ganz coached Chiefs game, back to back. Then, as a refresher, 3 years of Herm ****ing Edwards on FFWD.

10-6 will then seem like a cool evening breeze, after a hot summer day.

Cool, but I think you should have to masturbate with a cheesegrader while watching everyone of Herms press conferences, you know just to help your fandom...

FringeNC · 12-17-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Two? Marc Bulger and Kurt Warner.

Woo-hoo! He's a genius!

Trent Green.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Two? Marc Bulger and Kurt Warner.

Woo-hoo! He's a genius!

If you are putting Bulger in there, you better put Green in as well. Martz was his coach in Washington and St. Louis.

**Baby Lee** · 12-17-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You're not really describing a franchise QB, then. In other words, do you think that there was a very good possibility that P. Manning, Elway, Marino, etc. would fail? That their superior talent wouldn't have ultimately won out?

Players like Green, Bulger, and Warner can be very nice system guys. These are players high-quality staffs can develop, and they're also players that can be ruined, completely.

We've had only system QB's in KC for the last, well, 20+ years. We need a franchise guy, and now we're drafting high enough that this *might* be a good opportunity to get one. Might.

Marino 'succeeded?' One rookie season SB loss [which per the Cowher rule doesn't count], and a career of playoff failure, culminating in the 50-0 playoff loss his final season.

Marino's the poster boy for RTFdom.

12-17-2008, 04:09 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7179572	Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7? Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth? Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs? Do you hate wide receivers? Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position? Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14? Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to? Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant? Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks? Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager? Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw? Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense? Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII? Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft? Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much? Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need? Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores? Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure? Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet? Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator? Do you think that reaction is safer than action? Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us? Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]? Do you prefer tailgating to Championships? Do you fear the unknown? Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense? Do you believe that the run sets up the pass? Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college? Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage? If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football. Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge: After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games. If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately. We're here to help. Sincerely, The ChiefsPlanet Clinic Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 02-15-2010 at 10:48 PM..
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