Chiefs Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help - Page 7

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10:48 PM

Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7?

Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth?

Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs?

Do you hate wide receivers?

Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position?

Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14?

Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to?

Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant?

Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks?

Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager?

Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw?

Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense?

Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII?

Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft?

Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much?

Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need?

Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores?

Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure?

Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet?

Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator?

Do you think that reaction is safer than action?

Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us?

Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]?

Do you prefer tailgating to Championships?

Do you fear the unknown?

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

Do you believe that the run sets up the pass?

Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college?

Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage?

If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football.

Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge:

After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games.

If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately.

We're here to help.

Sincerely,

The ChiefsPlanet Clinic

**HemiEd** · 12-17-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I would have to agree that Kurt Warner is basically a self-made QB. The guy was left for dead after his time with the New York Giants, and he's turned into an MVP candidate in Arizona.

He just seriously might be the most incredible NFL story ever.

Do you think there is anything to the fact, that he may have had time to heal?
He got seriously beaten up during the end of his time in St. Louis, and almost seemed like a "dead man walking."
I wonder how many concussions he got in St. Louis?

I am not making light of the fact, he is an incredible story.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Marino 'succeeded?' One rookie season SB loss [which per the Cowher rule doesn't count], and a career of playoff failure, culminating in the 50-0 playoff loss his final season.

Marino's the poster boy for RTFdom.

Yeah, he's a franchise QB. This doesn't mean that you're 100 percent assured a SB victory, but it greatly increases your odds that it will happen.

Was Elway any better at the very end of his career when he finally got the victory? Not hardly. He was great long before this, and not winning the SB wouldn't have changed this fact.

milkman · 12-17-2008, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, he's a franchise QB. This doesn't mean that you're 100 percent assured a SB victory, but it greatly increases your odds that it will happen.

Was Elway any better at the very end of his career when he finally got the victory? Not hardly. He was great long before this, and not winning the SB wouldn't have changed this fact.

What a franchise QB does is allow you to have a chance to compete at a SB caliber level consistenly for a number of years, provided that you put the pieces in place elswhere.

Game managers of the world might have that one season where they overachieve, or the team around them plays historically good (like the Ravens defense).

But teams like that can not sustain excellence consistently through years.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

What a franchise QB does is allow you to have a chance to compete at a SB caliber level consistenly for a number of years, provided that you put the pieces in place elswhere.

Game managers of the world might have that one season where they overachieve, or the team around them plays historically good (like the Ravens defense).

But teams like that can not sustain excellence consistently through years.

I agree with this completely.

A good question would be, can you (the Planet at large) name a franchise QB who never reached the SB? Don't have to win it. Just get there.

Adept Havelock · 12-17-2008, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree with this completely.

A good question would be, can you (the Planet at large) name a franchise QB who never reached the SB? Don't have to win it. Just get there.

Archie Manning.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Archie Manning.

Hmmm...is this a franchise guy? Only two pro-bowl years, terrible TD-INT ratio, but played for the 'Aints. Tough call.

This is before my time, so I defer to the Skips on the board.

Adept Havelock · 12-17-2008, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Hmmm...is this a franchise guy? Only two pro-bowl years, terrible TD-INT ratio, but played for the 'Aints. Tough call.

This is before my time, so I defer to the Skips on the board.

IMO, he fits the definition of a Franchise QB. He just never had anything around him.

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

IMO, he fits the definition of a Franchise QB. He just never had anything around him.

Then let's add him to the list. Others?

Adept Havelock · 12-17-2008, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Then let's add him to the list. Others?

Carson Palmer.

**the Talking Can** · 12-17-2008, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7?

Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth?

Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs?

Do you hate wide receivers?

Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position?

Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14?

Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to?

Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant?

Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks?

Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager?

Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw?

Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense?

Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII?

Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft?

Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much?

If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football.

Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge:

After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games.

If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately.

We're here to help.

Sincerely,

The ChiefsPlanet Clinic

total awesomeness

Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores?

Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure?

Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet?

Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator?

Do you think that reaction is safer than action?

Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us?

Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]?

Do you prefer tailgating to Championships?

Do you fear the unknown?

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

Do you believe that the run sets up the pass?

Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college?

Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage?

Do you think Dane is cool?

Well, then you, my reeruned friend, you are a True Fan.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I agree with this completely.

A good question would be, can you (the Planet at large) name a franchise QB who never reached the SB? Don't have to win it. Just get there.

Warren Moon
Carson Palmer

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adept Havelock

Carson Palmer.

Well, **** me. I write in allegory. Don't be a literal reader.

Reerun_KC · 12-17-2008, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

total awesomeness

Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores?

Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure?

Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet?

Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator?

Do you think that reaction is safer than action?

Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us?

Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]?

Do you prefer tailgating to Championships?

Do you fear the unknown?

Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense?

Do you believe that the run sets up the pass?

Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college?

Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage?

Do you think Dane is cool?

Well, then you, my reeruned friend, you are a True Fan.

Holy crap TTC!

That was perfect!

**DeezNutz** · 12-17-2008, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Warren Moon
Carson Palmer

Let's give Palmer and all current players a bit more time, please. It's not over for Palmer, yet.

Moon is a good example.

ChiefsCountry · 12-17-2008, 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Let's give Palmer and all current players a bit more time, please. It's not over for Palmer, yet.

Moon is a good example.

Moon is the only Super Bowl era quarterback to be in the Hall that never made the big game.

12-17-2008, 04:09 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7179572	Do You Suffer from TFS? True Fan Syndrome? If So, We Can Help Do you lie awake at nights dreaming of 8-8, or 9-7? Do you judge a season as a success by a Wild Card birth? Do you believe that defenses and running games are more important than franchise QBs? Do you hate wide receivers? Do you love coaches with a complete inability to spot talent at the running back position? Do you think that 3-13 is better for the long term future of the franchise than 2-14? Do you think the 2002 Bucs and 2000 Ravens are model NFL teams to aspire to? Do you find playoff records to be irrelevant? Do you believe that guards and right tackles should be taken with top five picks? Do you believe that a quarterback is best served as a game manager? Do you believe that every 3rd Down play should either be a screen or a draw? Do you believe kicker is the most important position on the offense? Do you believe that all of the best prospects reside in the Big XII? Do you believe in trading down in any situation during the draft? Do you believe that a team is better served picking 20 rather than 5 because they don't have to pay the player as much? Do you believe that the only way to be a winning team is to throw money at the most expensive Free Agents every year, regardless of need? Do you judge QBOTF by their box scores? Do you think that risk is scary, and therefore, wish to draft last in every round to avoid the perception of failure? Do you think that Marty and Bill Cowher are the only two coaches left on the planet? Do you think that Gunther was once a great coordinator? Do you think that reaction is safer than action? Do you think every other team that actually drafted a QBOTF just 'got lucky' and that it could never happen to us? Is your name [alias of claythan and hootie]? Do you prefer tailgating to Championships? Do you fear the unknown? Do you believe that 'being close in the 4th quarter' is the objective of an offense? Do you believe that the run sets up the pass? Do you believe that Stafford "has done nothing worth mentioning" in college? Do you think QBs don't need to know how to play from under the center, and that learning 5 and 7 step drops is irrelevant because once Thigpen completed a 7 yard pass to a hall of fame tight end in quadruple coverage? If so, you may suffer from TFS, True Fan Syndrome. Here at the ChiefsPlanet Clinic, our staff of experts can help rid you of this debilitating malady. Through study of game tape of such contests as Super Bowl XXIII we can help ameliorate the effects of play not to lose football. Upon registering at our world-renowned clinic, you will be given the following ID badge: After six weeks of therapy, our cure rate for TFS approaches 91%, which ironically, is slightly better than Herm Edwards' losing percentage the last 23 games. If you or a loved one suffers from TFS, please, contact us immediately. We're here to help. Sincerely, The ChiefsPlanet Clinic Last edited by 'Hamas' Jenkins; 02-15-2010 at 10:48 PM..
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