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Old 12-30-2008, 10:21 PM  
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SAN ANTONIO | When it was over, when the 12-point-favorite, former-national-title-contending Missouri Tigers finally subdued Northwestern in overtime, the Tigers danced across the Alamodome as if they’d beaten Kansas or won the Big 12 title.

When he was handed the microphone at the Alamo Bowl trophy ceremony, Gary Pinkel shrieked: “How ’bout dem Tigers?!?”

I wondered what game I’d just watched.

The one I watched was an embarrassment for the Tigers. An inferior opponent had outplayed them for most of the night, settled for a moral victory in the fourth quarter and gave up in overtime.

Congrats, Mizzou. Beating Northwestern 30-23 in overtime inside a half-empty stadium at the conclusion of a season that started with national-title hopes is now the signature moment at the end of the Chase Daniel-Dave Christensen-Spread Offense era.

I’m sorry to rain on the parade scheduled for Columbia today to celebrate the 10-4 Tigers. But I expected more. Coming off losses to Kansas and Oklahoma, I expected Daniel and Christensen to exit Missouri and the Alamodome amid fireworks they sparked.

Instead, while the Tigers were wildly celebrating their “big” victory, the Northwestern Wildcats were at the losers’ postgame news conference claiming a moral victory. Coach Pat Fitzgerald talked about how no one expected the Wildcats to be competitive in this game and how much they proved by taking Missouri into the fourth quarter.

Northwestern proved Missouri is a fraud. The Tigers’ over-the-top celebration let us know that they know they’ve been overrated and overhyped, benefactors of Bill Snyder, cupcake scheduling.

Yeah, they cooed about averaging 10 victories during the Daniel-Christensen era. Uh, 10 victories is like 1,000 yards in the NFL. It used to mean something when the NFL season was 12 and 14 games. Ten victories used to mean a lot before teams started scheduling four nonconference victories.

The Tigers have mastered the art of beating weak teams and sneaking past decent ones. We’ll call the Wildcats decent.

What should we call the Missouri Tigers?

I’m not sure. It’s all pretty much under review now — the Daniel-Christensen-Spread era.

Daniel seems more like a system quarterback now than a Heisman Trophy contender. He played miserably against Northwestern, tossing three interceptions and becoming progressively more inaccurate as the night wore on.

Christensen’s Spread seems flawed by forced diversity. On a night when the Tigers should’ve simply thrown the ball to Chase Coffman 20 times, Mizzou’s big tight end caught seven passes for 67 yards.

We might one day remember Coffman as the Michael Jordan of college football and Christensen as Dean Smith. Christensen might be the only man capable of holding Coffman to fewer than 10 receptions a game.

I spent all night begging Daniel to throw to Coffman. He caught everything in his area code and a couple of over-the-border balls. On a night when the Tigers just needed to move the chains, Christensen repeatedly got cute with reverses, fake reverses, the Wildcat formation and deep balls to receivers not named Jeremy Maclin.

It was very frustrating.

Pinkel and Christensen both need to write thank-you notes to Pat Fitzgerald.

Northwestern simply refused to score points in the fourth quarter. Fitzgerald stood on his sideline, dropped to his knees and prayed that the clock would expire during the final quarter. Rather than throw deep against Missouri’s vulnerable corners and safeties, Fitzgerald had his QB throw slants, screens and occasional dumps over the middle of the field.

With a chance to drive for the game-winning field goal at the end of regulation, Fitzgerald ran the ball once, threw sideways twice and punted. Herm Edwards must be his coaching role model.

Whatever, the Wildcats are always irrelevant when it comes to big-time football. Northwestern traveled to San Antonio to reveal things about the Tigers.

The questions that were raised about the Tigers in the losses to Kansas and Oklahoma were all answered on Monday.

The answers were unpleasant and unflattering. They put Missouri’s last two seasons in proper perspective. Gary Pinkel still has a lot of work to do. The Tigers have not arrived. They’re the kings of a pathetic Big 12 North.

Let’s save the ticker-tape parades and unseemly celebrations and shrieking until Pinkel puts a bit more on his resume.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:50 AM   #46
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It should be noted that there's really only ONE person doing this - one sad, bitter, pathetic person who isn't even liked by other members of his own fanbase.

Look at his posts. All he does here is talk about KU basketball or flail away at me on MU threads - that's it. Even in cyberspace he can't find a life.
Reminds me of you during lasts years season...
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:51 AM   #47
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95% of the time.
I thought the same thing about Bucknell and Bradley and last year vs MU. But this is the reason we watch sports and don't let the announcers tell us who is going to win.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:01 AM   #48
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Reminds me of you during lasts years season...
Hardly. This guy's such a douche even Ari has called him out for being a douche. And that's like the devil complaining about the flames being too hot.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:05 AM   #49
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If the fraud arguement ever applied to a team, it applies to this years MU team. Say what you want about KU, but the hawks weren't ever in the top ten this year. MU had no business being ranked that high, and their current and final ranking will be a reflection of being overrated early on. As to MU losing to KU this year, I think that speaks for itself as to which team is superior at this time. Flame on...
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Congratulations to Miz-zou on back to back 10 win seasons...Whitlock is still right in his analysis of the tigers. I lost a ton of respect for Coach Pinkel when he axed a Home and AWAY series with the Iowa Hawks about 6 years back. That would be a GREAT rivalry series for both schools. My guess Mizzou would have won the last 3-4 seasons in a row if that series would have been kept.

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Old 12-31-2008, 10:47 AM   #51
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I have no problem with those two. My "beef" is with Frazod for his fraud/cupcake talk about KU over the last year. It all really came back to bite him in the ass.
So you posted this just so you could respond to him? Thanks for admitting you posted it just to stir shit up. Doesn't that make you a troll?
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:03 AM   #52
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And this is why I was laughing yesterday, Frazod.

I'm looking forward to MUCH laughter this evening as I cheer on Bobby Bell's Alma-Mater.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:07 AM   #53
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So you posted this just so you could respond to him? Thanks for admitting you posted it just to stir shit up. Doesn't that make you a troll?
No! It makes him a fan.

KC Connection can hate my guts, and that's cool. If he hates MU, even better.

KC Connection, Frazod and Myself are Real College Football Fans, and we do NOT seek peace, love, and understanding.

Just as God Intended.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:09 AM   #54
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No! It makes him a fan.

KC Connection can hate my guts, and that's cool. If he hates MU, even better.

KC Connection, Frazod and Myself are Real College Football Fans, and we do NOT seek peace, love, and understanding.

Just as God Intended.
Do NOT lump me in with that piece of shit. I may hate Kansas, but I don't let it consume me to the point other Missouri fans can't even stand me.

Being like KC one who sucks the penis isn't something you should aspire to.
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KU was horrible.. They just happened to expose MU's horrid defense and Chase's choking..
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where's the Safety to avoid that last play TD.... he should be fired.
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:13 AM   #56
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It goes both ways, welcome to the rivalry.
Anyone remember the YouTube video of MUdouchebags celebrating the KU loss to SFU?
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Old 12-31-2008, 11:19 AM   #57
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???????

look at the records. look at the common opponents.

your gunna honestly say KU is just as good a team as Mizzou??

I don't give a damn if you beat Mizzou or not, shit like that happens. It was a rivalry game, and KU clearly wanted it more, you could see that.

Mizzou beat KU in the biggest game between the 2 schools EVER last year.

Has KU had back to back 10 win seasons? Has Mark Mangino EVER finished ahead of Gary Pinkel??

The answer is no. This is the first time KU has had back to back BOWL games. Mizzou has been to 4 straight.

Mizzou was a little overrated this year, I'll admit that. OU, Texas, and Tech all improved, while Mizzou declined a little. They lost their swagger and confidence when they took OSU lightly and lost. It happens all the time to teams. But I don't know how any Mizzou fan can argue about back to back 10 win seasons, we should be enjoying this. And I am.
LOL... last year it was SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD, and this year "it's a rivalry game and shit happens".

I completely agree that shit happens, which is why you can't just say "Mizzou beat Nebraska and Kansas didn't" (or whatever)... you have to look at the big picture.

Big picture: Neither Mizzou or Kansas can play with the top teams in the country. Kansas played with OU for a little over a half, and got their asses handed to them against Texas and Tech. Mizzou played with OSU and got their asses handed to them by OU and Texas. Last year Kansas beat OSU and Mizzou beat Tech, but neither were as good as they are this year.

Mizzou and Kansas can both beat up North teams and non-conference creampuffs. The only notable games are Mizzou/Illinois last year and Kansas/USF this year... Mizzou won by 6, Kansas lost by 3.

Mizzou beat Kansas by one possession last year, Kansas beat Mizzou by one possession this year.


I've thought all along that Mizzou was "the best of the rest" and that Kansas was a couple of steps behind them, but if you look at the last two seasons, there really is nothing that separates the two teams. Yeah, if you're looking at the past 5 years or the past 20 years of bowl appearances, Mizzou probably wins (even though head-to-head is even), but in the last two years they're a lot closer to each other than some want to believe.

I had Mizzou fans telling me they would play for the NC and that there was hope of at least playing with OU, so yes, beatdowns by UT and OU and barely beating Northwestern shows Mizzou is a fraud just like Kansas losing to Mizzou last year proved Kansas was a fraud.

Kansas won their last game of the season last year on a much bigger stage, yet some still thought they were frauds. Well, hate to break it to you all who think Mizzou is vastly superior, but if you believe Kansas was a fraud last year you have to believe Mizzou is a fraud this year.
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LOL... last year it was SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD SCOREBOARD, and this year "it's a rivalry game and shit happens".

I completely agree that shit happens, which is why you can't just say "Mizzou beat Nebraska and Kansas didn't" (or whatever)... you have to look at the big picture.

Big picture: Neither Mizzou or Kansas can play with the top teams in the country. Kansas played with OU for a little over a half, and got their asses handed to them against Texas and Tech. Mizzou played with OSU and got their asses handed to them by OU and Texas. Last year Kansas beat OSU and Mizzou beat Tech, but neither were as good as they are this year.

Mizzou and Kansas can both beat up North teams and non-conference creampuffs. The only notable games are Mizzou/Illinois last year and Kansas/USF this year... Mizzou won by 6, Kansas lost by 3.

Mizzou beat Kansas by one possession last year, Kansas beat Mizzou by one possession this year.


I've thought all along that Mizzou was "the best of the rest" and that Kansas was a couple of steps behind them, but if you look at the last two seasons, there really is nothing that separates the two teams. Yeah, if you're looking at the past 5 years or the past 20 years of bowl appearances, Mizzou probably wins (even though head-to-head is even), but in the last two years they're a lot closer to each other than some want to believe.

I had Mizzou fans telling me they would play for the NC and that there was hope of at least playing with OU, so yes, beatdowns by UT and OU and barely beating Northwestern shows Mizzou is a fraud just like Kansas losing to Mizzou last year proved Kansas was a fraud.

Kansas won their last game of the season last year on a much bigger stage, yet some still thought they were frauds. Well, hate to break it to you all who think Mizzou is vastly superior, but if you believe Kansas was a fraud last year you have to believe Mizzou is a fraud this year.
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???????

look at the records. look at the common opponents.

your gunna honestly say KU is just as good a team as Mizzou??

I don't give a damn if you beat Mizzou or not, shit like that happens. It was a rivalry game, and KU clearly wanted it more, you could see that.
That's got to be one of the dumbest arguments EVER. The only common opponent in which the outcomes were different was Nebraska.
Admittedly Mizzou beat the snot bubbles out of them while KU got beat. If you don't believe Nebraska was a different team at the beginning of the season vs the end of the season you didn't watch them much.

KU beat Mizzou. So yeah, they were the better team that night. Would it have happened if they had played again......you don't know, maybe, maybe not.

I'm not saying Mizzou is a fraud at all, and Twitlock probably doesn't believe that BS either, it's just something to sell papers.
Over rated, sure. Many on here thought they would be playing in a BCS game this year. Hell, I had them playing USC in the title game in my predictions.
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barely beating Northwestern shows Mizzou is a fraud just like Kansas losing to Mizzou last year proved Kansas was a fraud.

Kansas won their last game of the season last year on a much bigger stage, yet some still thought they were frauds. Well, hate to break it to you all who think Mizzou is vastly superior, but if you believe Kansas was a fraud last year you have to believe Mizzou is a fraud this year.
You said they were.

Anyway, I don't see how losing to MU last year made KU a fraud. MU had a very good team last year.
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