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FloridaMan88 · 01-03-2009, 11:28 PM

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The person Hunt hires gets the best job in football

Clark Hunt is interviewing candidates for what could be the best job in football.

Maybe that explains his deliberate approach to finding and securing Kansas City’s next general manager.

If a qualified man wants to be an NFL GM, running the Kansas City Chiefs should be his dream job. Scott Pioli, Kevin Colbert and Chris Polian — the most qualified and coveted future GMs — have more reason to pursue Clark Hunt than Hunt has to pursue them.

Why?

•The Hunt family employed Carl Peterson for 20 years, demonstrating a level of loyalty and patience that is pretty much nonexistent in professional sports.

•The Hunts gave Peterson a degree of autonomy that is pretty much nonexistent in professional sports.

•The Chiefs are more than $30 million below the salary cap and are in position to unload a few more unproductive, expensive veterans this offseason.

•The Chiefs are one season away from playing in a fancy, exciting renovated Arrowhead Stadium.

•There’s no one within the football side of the organization that a new GM has to show any loyalty. He can clean out the scouting department and coaching staff.

•Expectations are low.

My initial instinct in writing this column was to criticize Clark Hunt for appearing to go about fixing his broken franchise without a concrete plan. Things aren’t going the way I anticipated.

When Hunt fired Peterson with two weeks left in the regular season, I assumed Hunt had identified his next general manager. I thought within days of the season’s end, Hunt would lock up New England’s Pioli or Pittsburgh’s Colbert or Indy’s Polian.

Instead of a new football king to trumpet, we were treated last week to our departing King (Carl) granting an exclusive Internet podcast interview to his last loyal subject, Bob Gretz. Peterson doesn’t have the good sense to be embarrassed by his cowardice. But agreeing to a final, 7-minute Bob Gretz tongue bath further diminishes Peterson’s legacy.

Peterson has refused to discuss his dismissal with legitimate members of the media for three weeks. At this point what Peterson has to say about his tenure is irrelevant.

Like most Chiefs fans, I’m ready to move on.

And that includes moving on from Peterson’s last significant action — hiring Herm Edwards.

In fairness, Herm might just be collateral damage from the ugly end of Peterson’s era. But the Chiefs ended the 2008 season in poor fashion, including a gutless performance at Cincinnati.

Why hasn’t Hunt disposed of Edwards and his coaching staff? They’re unsalvageable. Why leave an unpleasant task to a GM who had nothing to do with the team’s 6-26 record the last two years?

And if Hunt would like to see a new GM retain Edwards, I don’t see how leaving Edwards publicly twisting for days (and potentially weeks) enhances his locker-room credibility. Herm is damaged goods.

But, after thinking everything through, I decided emotion was overruling sound judgment. None of my gripes (or yours) really matter.

Hunt has the job. He can afford to sit back a little and let candidates woo him.

He needs to hear from Pioli, Colbert and Polian what they’re going to do for the Kansas City Chiefs. What the Hunts will do for a general manager is a matter of record. Peterson, Jack Steadman and Hank Stram were all allowed to stay beyond their usefulness. Gunther Cunningham is the only head coach to be fired by the Chiefs during the last 20 years. Over the same time frame, the Browns, another team looking for new leadership, have canned coaches Bud Carson, Jim Shofner (interim), Bill Belichick, Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Terry Robiskie (interim) and Romeo Crennel.

There’s no reason for desperation. The situation isn’t desperate.

If Hunt lands the right GM, the Chiefs can experience the kind of turnaround the Dolphins did this season. Bill Parcells and his coach, Tony Sparano, sparked a one-win-to-11-win turnaround in Miami.

I can’t imagine a scenario in which Hunt doesn’t land a top-flight general manager. I’m willing to wait.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-04-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by orange

I was kind of pointing to the possibility of Al Davis rehiring Mike Shanahan a second time, you know.

Did that go over your head?

It's alright - it's early in the year. You've got plenty of time to pull it together.

[edit] What do I have to type to get the rat icon? Did the webmaster disable that expecting Shanahan might end up KC's coach?

Dude, you've been here for over 8 years and you haven't figured out I'm easily confused? Guess I haven't made a mark. I would keel over and die instantaneously if Mike Shannahan became the coach of the Oakland Raiders.

Quesadilla Joe · 01-04-2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

What if he went to KC? KC isn't rebuilding, they're going to be putting the finishing touches on it. They'll compete for the division in 10.

I don't want him in the division, if he goes somewhere else I hope it is in the NFC.

I think Shanahan wants to go to a Super Bowl contender not a team competing for the division. San Diego is probably the only team in the division he will consider.

If KC, NYJ, OAK, CLE, and Detroit are the only job openings he won't coach next season IMO.

triple · 01-04-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan88

[Carl] agreeing to a final, 7-minute Bob Gretz tongue bath further diminishes Peterson’s legacy.

I disagree. Nothing could further diminish Peterson's legacy

DT58HOF · 01-04-2009, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

I understand that the new HC gets to pick his coordinators.

I'm simply saying that Chan is not a sack of shit that NEEDS to be discarded. In fact, quite the opposite. He turned a team that was struggling to score any points at all into a team that put up 27 points on a top 10 D (Bucs).

With any semblance of a defense, our record would be vastly different.

If you had to keep just one guy from this list. Who would you keep?

HC- Herm
DC - Gunther
OC - Chan
QBc- Curl
ST - Priefer

if i only had 4 pillows to smuther them i would let Chan breathe,lol

DT58HOF · 01-04-2009, 03:55 AM

Shanahan will coach the COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**pr_capone** · 01-04-2009, 04:08 AM

shit...

forgot to add Krumrie

less screaming and more teaching

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-04-2009, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

That was certainly true when Lamar was alive, but Clark doesn't seem to be nearly as patient as his father was. Carl only lasted 2 years after Lamar died.

Eh, 50/50; his time was running out, but Clark's timing on the heave-ho was priceless. And unexpected. Smart man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Nothing, other than running an offense that disappeared in the 2nd half.

No new HC in his right mind is going to keep Gailey on board, for the same reasons no new GM in his right mind would keep Herm on board.

A new HC is going to want HIS GUYS, not the leftovers of a 2-14 staff.

Yep, total colon-cleanse in the house of the Red and Gold. There's NO ONE on this team, save last years draft picks who should feel comfortable in any way, shape, or form.
Car wash gun-pressure enema in the WHOLE house; only the strong shall survive.

DCS has spoken.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-04-2009, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

shit...

forgot to add Krumrie

less screaming and more teaching

Is he that super-obnoxious LOUD mother****er that makes Gun look placid by comparison?

I HATE that mother****er! Someone on defense should pay Gray or Huard some tidy grip to throw a "Rocket-Ball" right to that blowhard's nut-sack.

Put THAT shit on "Inside The NFL", and let Len and Nick come back to host the 'Blooper Show'; I'd pay the extra $$$ or pay-per-view to watch it too!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-04-2009, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Claythan

Unfortunately he's tied to Herm. Them's the breaks.

He's not exactly Bill Walsh.

Goddamnit, I keep giving you green on a regular basis, and it seems to do NO good; are you on SuperUltraMegaPissedOffTheWrongPersonToThe 100th-Power, or WHAT?!?!?

Am I fighting a losing battle here or what?

Goddamnit; Jared Allen and Toby Keith should make a record together; I think they were separated at birth!

Stryker · 01-04-2009, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutler7624

I don't want him in the division, if he goes somewhere else I hope it is in the NFC.

I think Shanahan wants to go to a Super Bowl contender not a team competing for the division. San Diego is probably the only team in the division he will consider.

If KC, NYJ, OAK, CLE, and Detroit are the only job openings he won't coach next season IMO.

THIS

ESPN is stating that Jones is considering him to coach the Cowboys in 2010.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3808287

CupidStunt · 01-04-2009, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Peterson's refusal to discuss his departure certainly does add to the speculation that he was FIRED out of the blue after the SD game.

Not really because the coach should be getting it in the neck if that's the case. Herm wouldn't be here today if that one game did it all for Clark. It's not like Carl did anything to hurt that specific game; that's on Herm and the players.

orange · 01-04-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lj4mvp

It's not like Carl did anything to hurt that specific game; that's on Herm and the players.

No, but it was an historic meltdown.

Historic meltdowns against the Chargers have a way of forcing immediate reactions, you know.

Watch Dungy announce his retirement tomorrow.

milkman · 01-04-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker

THIS

ESPN is stating that Jones is considering him to coach the Cowboys in 2010.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3808287

Does anyone really think that the Rat would work for a meddling owner like Jones?

Deberg_1990 · 01-04-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Does anyone really think that the Rat would work for a meddling owner like Jones?

On first thought, no.

But then Parcells did it for 3 years.

If the money is right (you know it would be with JJ) and the lure of coaching the NFL's flagship team, i can definately see it.

dtebbe · 01-04-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by orange

It would almost be worth it to watch the mass tongue-swallowing and self-immolation on this board.

We have cheese in KC... what's the problem?

DT

01-03-2009, 11:28 PM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-577094	Whitlock: The person Hunt hires gets the best job in football http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...ry/963879.html The person Hunt hires gets the best job in football Clark Hunt is interviewing candidates for what could be the best job in football. Maybe that explains his deliberate approach to finding and securing Kansas City’s next general manager. If a qualified man wants to be an NFL GM, running the Kansas City Chiefs should be his dream job. Scott Pioli, Kevin Colbert and Chris Polian — the most qualified and coveted future GMs — have more reason to pursue Clark Hunt than Hunt has to pursue them. Why? •The Hunt family employed Carl Peterson for 20 years, demonstrating a level of loyalty and patience that is pretty much nonexistent in professional sports. •The Hunts gave Peterson a degree of autonomy that is pretty much nonexistent in professional sports. •The Chiefs are more than $30 million below the salary cap and are in position to unload a few more unproductive, expensive veterans this offseason. •The Chiefs are one season away from playing in a fancy, exciting renovated Arrowhead Stadium. •There’s no one within the football side of the organization that a new GM has to show any loyalty. He can clean out the scouting department and coaching staff. •Expectations are low. My initial instinct in writing this column was to criticize Clark Hunt for appearing to go about fixing his broken franchise without a concrete plan. Things aren’t going the way I anticipated. When Hunt fired Peterson with two weeks left in the regular season, I assumed Hunt had identified his next general manager. I thought within days of the season’s end, Hunt would lock up New England’s Pioli or Pittsburgh’s Colbert or Indy’s Polian. Instead of a new football king to trumpet, we were treated last week to our departing King (Carl) granting an exclusive Internet podcast interview to his last loyal subject, Bob Gretz. Peterson doesn’t have the good sense to be embarrassed by his cowardice. But agreeing to a final, 7-minute Bob Gretz tongue bath further diminishes Peterson’s legacy. Peterson has refused to discuss his dismissal with legitimate members of the media for three weeks. At this point what Peterson has to say about his tenure is irrelevant. Like most Chiefs fans, I’m ready to move on. And that includes moving on from Peterson’s last significant action — hiring Herm Edwards. In fairness, Herm might just be collateral damage from the ugly end of Peterson’s era. But the Chiefs ended the 2008 season in poor fashion, including a gutless performance at Cincinnati. Why hasn’t Hunt disposed of Edwards and his coaching staff? They’re unsalvageable. Why leave an unpleasant task to a GM who had nothing to do with the team’s 6-26 record the last two years? And if Hunt would like to see a new GM retain Edwards, I don’t see how leaving Edwards publicly twisting for days (and potentially weeks) enhances his locker-room credibility. Herm is damaged goods. But, after thinking everything through, I decided emotion was overruling sound judgment. None of my gripes (or yours) really matter. Hunt has the job. He can afford to sit back a little and let candidates woo him. He needs to hear from Pioli, Colbert and Polian what they’re going to do for the Kansas City Chiefs. What the Hunts will do for a general manager is a matter of record. Peterson, Jack Steadman and Hank Stram were all allowed to stay beyond their usefulness. Gunther Cunningham is the only head coach to be fired by the Chiefs during the last 20 years. Over the same time frame, the Browns, another team looking for new leadership, have canned coaches Bud Carson, Jim Shofner (interim), Bill Belichick, Chris Palmer, Butch Davis, Terry Robiskie (interim) and Romeo Crennel. There’s no reason for desperation. The situation isn’t desperate. If Hunt lands the right GM, the Chiefs can experience the kind of turnaround the Dolphins did this season. Bill Parcells and his coach, Tony Sparano, sparked a one-win-to-11-win turnaround in Miami. I can’t imagine a scenario in which Hunt doesn’t land a top-flight general manager. I’m willing to wait.
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