Chiefs Question about LJ's tradability. - Page 2

Frankie · 01-04-2009, 11:15 AM

Every time someone talks about trading LJ away a bunch of posters pounce on him and remind him how "stupid" he is because LJ's big contract and signing bonus makes him UNTRADABLE. I admit, when it comes to understanding financial stuff I am far from the brightest star in the sky. So here's the question:

LJ wants out of KC. We, as I understand, lose less money if we keep him than if we get rid of him (don't know how, but it's been said). With that in mind, if Leon is so out of here in his mind, is it possible that the current contract can be thrown away and a new more reasonable one negotiated that would remove the barriers to his tradability? If not, let him know that he will be an expensive back-up on our bench. A year of gluing his ass to the bench should either ruin his career or bring his ass around to be more agreeable to this.

Am I overlooking something here?

blueballs · 01-04-2009, 11:55 AM

the .6 million they save for keeping LJ
they can use to re-sign DJ as a bonus

Coogs · 01-04-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Teams don't get comp picks for players that are cut before their contracts expire.

My bad!

Frankie · 01-04-2009, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13

Yeah. The financial holdup is LJs signing bonus. Since he signed a 7 year deal, and has only fulfilled 2, the bulk of the signing bonus would accelerate into next year, as a current year cap hit. The Chiefs would lose about 14 million or so in cap room (or 7 if you spread the hit over 2 years).

Of course, the Chiefs DO have that cap room, unless the new GM decides to go on a shopping spree. As for LJ's tradability, the new team would assume LJ's base pay. From what I understand, LJ's base pay is pretty high and the new team might not be willing to accept that salary for a guy that could receive a years suspension for his next nightclub run-in. A team trading for LJ might demand to renegotiate the contract with LJ, before doing a deal.

So under that scenario the chiefs CAN conceivably trade him without absorbing the signing bonus hit.

milkman · 01-04-2009, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

So under that scenario the chiefs CAN conceivably trade him without absorbing the signing bonus hit.

No.

The Chiefs will absorb the bonus hit if he's traded.

The renegotiated contract would be signed after the trade is official.

Frankie · 01-04-2009, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Extra Point

Robert Bennett sure looked good last night, didn't he?

Michael?

Frankie · 01-04-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dorseybowe

I wouldn't have a problem benching him for a season, so we can save a few bucks.

There is a benefit in doing that and THAT is that it'll get it in his thick scull that THAT is his career if he does not renegotiate.

Frankie · 01-04-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

If we just cut LJ, we most likely would get a 3rd round compensation pick in the 2010 draft, depending on who is signed as FA's this off-season. So it is not like we would go away empty handed.

That's a good point.

milkman · 01-04-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

That's a good point.

No it isn't.

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Originally Posted by milkman

Teams don't get comp picks for players that are cut before their contracts expire.

Mr. Laz · 01-04-2009, 01:20 PM

LJ has already been paid ..... redoing his contract would only help his new not us.

now if he repaid some of that signing bonus to us Al Davis

Hootie · 01-04-2009, 01:21 PM

I don't anything about his trade-ability, but his drinkability is off the hooks...just ask the bitches out the Power and Lights District!

Basileus777 · 01-04-2009, 01:27 PM

He can be traded if necessary, but the cap hit combined with a likely small draft pick as compensation means that it probably won't happen. It's not worth trading LJ at this point.

StcChief · 01-04-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

I have heard that if LJ is convicted on either of the assult charges he has pending then it triggers a conduct clause in his contact and voids a good portion of his signing bonus.
He would potentially have to pay back some of the bonus.

Not for certain if thats true. I hope so.

almost makes it a hit situation.
have somebody provoke a fight.

Deberg_1990 · 01-04-2009, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

He can be traded if necessary, but the cap hit combined with a likely small draft pick as compensation means that it probably won't happen. It's not worth trading LJ at this point.

Well thats something the new Chiefs GM is going to have to weigh heavily.

Trade him and take the hit. Addition by subtraction.

or keep him and all his baggage.

Basileus777 · 01-04-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Well thats something the new Chiefs GM is going to weigh.

Trade him and take the hit. Addition by subtraction.

or keep him and all his baggage.

LJ is also still a productive RB. We don't have any other starting caliber RB on our roster. If we trade LJ we would need to draft/sign another RB.

Reerun_KC · 01-04-2009, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

He can be traded if necessary, but the cap hit combined with a likely small draft pick as compensation means that it probably won't happen. It's not worth trading LJ at this point.

This...

I think at this point, if the new coaching staff can find away to motivate him and run him into the ground ala Herm in 2006... Then just bury the piece of shit and try to get something in our return?

01-04-2009, 11:15 AM
Frankie Banned Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Question about LJ's tradability. Every time someone talks about trading LJ away a bunch of posters pounce on him and remind him how "stupid" he is because LJ's big contract and signing bonus makes him UNTRADABLE. I admit, when it comes to understanding financial stuff I am far from the brightest star in the sky. So here's the question: LJ wants out of KC. We, as I understand, lose less money if we keep him than if we get rid of him (don't know how, but it's been said). With that in mind, if Leon is so out of here in his mind, is it possible that the current contract can be thrown away and a new more reasonable one negotiated that would remove the barriers to his tradability? If not, let him know that he will be an expensive back-up on our bench. A year of gluing his ass to the bench should either ruin his career or bring his ass around to be more agreeable to this. Am I overlooking something here?
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't anything about his trade-ability, but his drinkability is off the hooks...just ask the bitches out the Power and Lights District!
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