NFL Advisory Board says Sanchez is a 2nd Rounder?

[Chiefnj2]

according to Pete Carroll, Sanchez's draft evaluation ranked him as a 2nd rounder.

15-Jan-09In strong disagreement
Carroll reveals why he disagrees with Sanchez’s decision to turn pro early


By Ben Malcolmson
USCRipsIt
PeteCarroll.com


After days of deliberation, Coach Pete Carroll and Mark Sanchez agreed to disagree.

But that definitely doesn’t mean Carroll is content with Sanchez’s decision to forgo his senior season and declare for the NFL Draft.

Carroll fleshed out his disagreement with Sanchez’s decision during a passionate exclusive interview with USCRipsIt about an hour after the quarterback’s announcement on Thursday morning.

“The facts are so strong against this decision,” Carroll said. “After analyzing all the information, the truth is there — he should’ve stayed for another year.”

Carroll cited a study that shows 62 percent of underclassmen quarterbacks who declare early for the Draft eventually don’t pan out in the NFL. He also pointed to Sanchez’s NFL Draft evaluation, which projected Sanchez as a second-round selection.

“Mark’s chance to increase his value and become the top player in college football next year would have been worth $10-$20 million or more — likely more,” Carroll said. “One more year of running a team is almost priceless, so he lost the chance to fully prepare himself and become the very best he could be before going to the NFL.

“That’s why there’s a 62 percent failure rate for underclassmen quarterbacks.”

During the press conference, Sanchez repeatedly referred to achieving a lifelong dream as to one of the reasons he made this decision.

“We have always been in full support of Mark pursuing his dream,” Carroll said, “he just should have postponed realizing his dream another 12 months.”

Carroll stressed that his advice to Sanchez throughout the last two weeks had the quarterback’s interests in mind, not his team’s.

“I’m trying to help him be the best he can be, and that would’ve been to stay in school another year and increase his value,” Carroll said. “The facts are there. And he knew all of it, but that’s what he wanted to do it, so we wish him the best.”

Carroll wasn’t alone in his disagreement.

“His family didn’t want it and everybody else told him he should’ve stayed,” Carroll said. “Also, he let go of the opportunity to affect the people around the university and the community, something that would’ve been unforgettable.”

Although he remained strong in his disagreement, Carroll emphasized that he still supports Sanchez and knows he “will always be a special member of the Trojan family.”

“Even though we disagree, I still support him and we’re going to try to help him in any way we can,” Carroll said. “It’s like a family member — you’re not going to stop loving him just because he makes a bad choice.

“Hopefully he’ll overcome the history of these decisions and the people’s opinions out there and becomes very successful.”

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

From 2006 - The NFL has established a "College Advisory Board" to help underclassmen determined their draft status. The advisory board, which is chaired by Polian, consists of eight to 10 NFL general managers and player personnel directors.

So it's anonymous - there's no way to know if the ****sticks up in Detroit or Cincinnati are on the panel, or if it's stocked with guys like Pioli, Newsome, etc.

[raybec 4]

Do they advise these guys of their "value" or where they are likely to actually go? Not always the same thing.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

Didn't the same advisory board grade Tebow out as a late first rounder?

As a TE/RT.

Who can ****ing jump pass like a mofo, by the way.

[Zouk]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So it's anonymous - there's no way to know if the ****sticks up in Detroit or Cincinnati are on the panel, or if it's stocked with guys like Pioli, Newsome, etc.

It's not about who's right in being a good player. Then Brady would have received a projection of Hall of Fame. It's a projection of where the majority NFL opinion is and the committee is appropriate for that.

I guess the 5 I heard is wrong and it's 12 as ChiefNJ posted.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So it's anonymous - there's no way to know if the ****sticks up in Detroit or Cincinnati are on the panel, or if it's stocked with guys like Pioli, Newsome, etc.

This might not happen at all, but I wonder if any of these sources have ever been known to sand bag a player? Talk down his value in hopes that perception causes him to slip. Probably not...might cause someone not to enter at all.

But the MLB draft has something similar when agents talk about ridiculous contract expectations to make the small fish turn away so that a top prospect slips to a bigger market team. After drafting said player, all of a sudden the huge demands disappear.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So it's anonymous - there's no way to know if the ****sticks up in Detroit or Cincinnati are on the panel, or if it's stocked with guys like Pioli, Newsome, etc.

Does it matter? It is 12 GMs/Personnel guys including Polian (presuming he still has the chair). It is composed of about a third of the guys that make the actual decisions. I'd imagine that certain teams wouldn't be involved because there is so much turnover within the organization.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This might not happen at all, but I wonder if any of these sources have ever been known to sand bag a player? Talk down his value in hopes that perception causes him to slip. Probably not...

But the MLB draft has something similar when agents talk about ridiculous contract expectations to make the small fish turn away so that a top prospect slips to a bigger market team. After drafting said player, all of a sudden the huge demands disappear.

I doubt they all-out sand bag a guy, but this has me wondering...

A 1/3 of the league's GM's are part of this panel.

How are they supposed to give honest advice without tipping their own hand to the other 11 GM involved as to what they think of the player?

[Hootie]

lets see...

Sanchez: Plus size, arm, accuracy...does he have poise? I don't know...but he put on QUITE the display at the Rose Bowl.

I'd be ok with Sanchez at #3...and I'd be ok with trading our 2nd and next year's first to move up into the middle-late 1st round to nab him there...

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I doubt they all-out sand bag a guy, but this has me wondering...

A 1/3 of the league's GM's are part of this panel.

How are they supposed to give honest advice without tipping their own hand to the other 11 GM involved as to what they think of the player?

Firing squad logic. No one knows for sure who killed the guy, except everyone knows the stink in the room is coming from Detroit.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I doubt they all-out sand bag a guy, but this has me wondering...

A 1/3 of the league's GM's are part of this panel.

How are they supposed to give honest advice without tipping their own hand to the other 11 GM involved as to what they think of the player?

It could be anonymous where each GM enters the data into a computer and after all grades are received the computer spits out the projection with the GMs seeing each other's grades.

[talastan]

If he falls to the late first or second, I'd make a play for him. As for #3 overall, I don't know. I'd prefer to pick up Everette Brown or trade down. JMO though, they're paying Pioli the millions to make this decision.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by talastan

If he falls to the late first or second, I'd make a play for him. As for #3 overall, I don't know. I'd prefer to pick up Everette Brown or trade down. JMO though, they're paying Pioli the millions to make this decision.

That's not you in your avi, then?

[Ultra Peanut]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Sanchez: Plus size, arm, accuracy...does he have poise?

It confuses me. He has touch, accuracy, poise, good mechanics, and he comes from a pro-style offense... it seems like experience is the big thing people use to try to downgrade him, but why does he need another year if he's already shown so many great qualities? It's not like we'll be asking him to lead us to the Super Bowl this year.

[RustShack]

Originally Posted by Bowser

The Alex Smith of the 2009 draft class?

No Bradford didn't come out.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

It could be anonymous where each GM enters the data into a computer and after all grades are received the computer spits out the projection with the GMs seeing each other's grades.

I would think it's anonymous. The GMs probably never even speak to each other about it.